From: Michael Bausenwein (mikeb55@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Jan 16 2000 - 13:14:06 GMT-3
if they have live access, does that mean you can look at CCO on the web, not
just the CD?? The web has much more in the way of good sample configs.....
Thanks
Mike
11 days and conting until my first attempt in San Jose
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Morris <SMorris@tele-tech.com>
To: <gb@multiservice.cc>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Joke?
> yeah, San Jose had live access as well.... Although I thought more about
> telnetting to my router pod at home to look at my configs rather than a
TAC
> case. :) Conscience got the best of me though (figured they'd log
> accesses!)... *shrug*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Bradford [mailto:glbradford@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 7:46 PM
> To: SMorris@tele-tech.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Joke?
>
>
> I do know about the program and have ran it before even being at the lab.
I
>
> personally have it running on my home machine when I am not using it.
SEDI
> has created the program and gives it to anyone who wants it. If you run
it
> your machine dloads a block of signal and processes it for a couple hours,
> then uploads it back and gets a new one. As I said, I do run it AT HOME.
I
>
> find it really amature to bring it to a professional enviroment.
>
> BTW - YES, the Cisco lab RTP machines DO have internet access.... Makes
you
>
> wonder about using hotmail to open TAC cases :)
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Scott Morris <SMorris@tele-tech.com>
> >Reply-To: Scott Morris <SMorris@tele-tech.com>
> >To: "'ccielab@groupstudy.com'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Joke?
> >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:59:08 -0500
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> >Wow... A joke is an interesting observation. Well, about the radio
signal
> >thing... Could it perhaps simply be the screen saver that's on there?
We
> >did that to a few people at work just for amusement. It "appears" to be
> >receiving radio signals and analyzing them looking for aliens and other
> >intelligent life...
> >
> >Now, being that you're going to take a technical test and assuming that
you
> >plan on passing such a test... I have to ask the obvious. If they TRULY
> >are using the systems to REALLY search for aliens... just WHERE are they
> >getting the radio signals from??? I mean, you'd need to have a pretty
damn
> >big antenna, and some sort of input device on the computer that you're
> >dealing with, and a regular single-processor Intel system just isn't
going
> >to be cool enough to process the MAGNITUDE of information that antennas
the
> >size of SETI's brings in (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence).
> >Sooo.... Ummm... Welcome to reality? ;)
> >
> >Now, back to the part of the CCIE program in general being a joke. The
web
> >site clearly tells you to prepare for everything, and at least the last
> >time
> >I looked at the things included on it they used words like "may" and
> >"might"
> >and "possible" and other things like that. So. It's difficult to say
it's
> >the tests' fault for the difficulty of some things on there.
> >
> >While the CCIE program tries to avoid being bleeding-edge in technology,
> >they're certainly looking to add any proven technology into the exams
where
> >they can do so without adding new equipment, or creating any difficulty
of
> >not being able to remain objective in the exam. It's all fair game. The
> >only reason ATM took so long to incorporate into the exam was the
equipment
> >itself had to be put in every lab so all would be equally objective.
> >
> >Remember, you can't prepare for everything, but know where to look things
> >up
> >and be good at thinking on your feet. I'm not trying to make this sound
> >like a negative experience for everyone, but anything really is fair
game.
> >You will certainly not have any "rules" of engagement in consulting jobs
> >you
> >take on in real life, so what makes the test any different? It isn't a
> >joke. It's a serious test, and I certainly applaud the people who make
the
> >scenarios and realize the difficulty of their job in remaining objective,
> >yet keeping the level of the examination properly difficult enough to
> >achieve the level of expertise they want to represent.
> >
> >The first time I took the exam, there were things on it that I didn't
> >like... Even the second time there were things I didn't like. However,
I
> >could not fault the exam itself. I failed the first time because of my
> >approach to the exam. My view always was that I can't know everything (I
> >try to pretend to have a real life too!), and that's an accurate approach
> >to
> >the exam. Be technically familiar with the concepts of everything so you
> >are not caught completely off-guard by something, but know where to look
up
> >the information you need, and put it into place as quickly as possible.
> >THAT is what being an "expert" represents.
> >
> >It's not a joke. It's an exam, and a difficult one.
> >
> >Scott Morris, MCSE, CNE(3.x), CCDP, CCIE #4713, Security Specialization
> >smorris@tele-tech.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gary Bradford [mailto:glbradford@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 1:43 PM
> >To: emolden@earthlink.net; BHedlund@LifeTimeFitness.com
> >Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: RE: [VPN]
> >
> >
> >
> >The CCIE program is becoming a joke. I don't mean that as saying it is
> >easy, I mean that they are not providing enough information outlining
what
> >the rules of a given question are. I think if you go to the proctor and
> >say
> >
> >I can configure this this way or this other way, what is it that you
want,
> >you should get a response.
> >
> >
> >
> >AND THE BIGGEST JOKE IS:
> >
> >At RTP they are using the CCIE lab PC's to look for aliens. Yes people,
a
> >big professional company like Cisco is running an application on all the
> >test takers PC's that analyze radio telescope signals took for patterns
> >that
> >
> >represent intelligence while people are taking the test. I can see
people
> >running this sort of thing at home on their pc's. Mabye on their office
> >machine at work. BUT AT THE CISCO CCIE LAB. This is by far the most
> >amature and unprofessional thing I could ever imagine them doing.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Erik" <emolden@earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: "Erik" <emolden@earthlink.net>
> > >To: "Brad Hedlund" <BHedlund@LifeTimeFitness.com>
> > >CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [VPN]
> > >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:27:34 -0500
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> > >From nobody@groupstudy.com Fri Jan 14 20:47:34 2000
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> > >Actually it was MOST DEFINATELY the test with VPN and did have 8
points,
> > >including routing issues via the tunnel, etc.
> > >
> > >I would suggest filtering and thinking through your comments a little
> > >before
> > >sending out in the future.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Brad Hedlund [mailto:BHedlund@LifeTimeFitness.com]
> > >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:19 PM
> > >To: 'Erik'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> > >Subject: RE: [VPN]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I dont see how you can have 8 points on basic GRE tunnels. ??
> > >People are failing the test more than ever lately and crediting the VPN
> > >stuff for it.
> > >Dont be nieve Erik. Just because you or a friend got a test with with
a
> > >basic tunnel doesnt mean that was the test with VPN.
> > >
> > >I say, better be safe than sorry. Know encryption.
> > >
> > >-Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It is basic tunnel configurations, etc. No encryption.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf
Of
> > > > Mosley, Arthur
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 10:19 PM
> > > > To: 'Curtis Phillips '; 'zhencai '; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com '
> > > > Subject: RE: [VPN]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think it's basic VPDN - (from CMTD course material/Cisco CD).
> > > >
> > > > Art
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Curtis Phillips
> > > > To: zhencai; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Sent: 1/14/00 9:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [VPN]
> > > >
> > > > You raise a good point. I was under th eimpression that all of the
> > > > encryption
> > > > and ipsec was not going to be required.
> > > >
> > > > "zhencai" <zhencai@home.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that this topic had been discussed a little in this
> > > > group, but
> > > > I'm
> > > > still kind of confused. I was wondering what I should know for the
lab
> > > > test(yeah, I know, everything, but...) Since VPN is quite a
> > > > broad topic,
> > > > I'd
> > > > like to find out what you guys think.
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Zhen Cai
> > > >
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