From: ccieuk (ccie2001uk@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Jan 19 2001 - 09:58:09 GMT-3
Is that contract or permie ?
--- andrew.2.shore@bt.com wrote: > Perhaps if you
worked in the real world you may find
> out how EASY Cisco is,
> and if you're as good as you think you are, you may
> even earn some real
> money
>
> I work in the UK and currently make over 100k and
> that's UK pounds not
> dollars and I haven't even sat the lab yet. The CCIE
> is a benchmark used by
> companies to rate employees ability, some companies
> (the one in Redmond)
> make their products attractive by giving away
> certification rendering them a
> waste of paper, at least Cisco make people sweat for
> their accreditation.
>
> A CCIE is nothing with out the real world experience
> to carry you through
> projects, treating CCIE as an academic exercise
> probably is easy but it
> doesn't mean you can do the job.
>
> Just as a matter of interest you neglected to say
> how many attempts it took.
>
>
> Andrew Shore
> BTcd
> Information Systems Engineering
> Internet & Multimedia
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hescock [mailto:bhescock@cisco.com]
> Sent: 18 January 2001 21:58
> To: dezhong
> Cc: Cameron, John; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
>
>
> Dezhong,
> You might want to unsubscribe from this list if
> you think the CCIE is
> so
> easy and has no real value. All you're going to do
> is piss people off by
> making comments like that.
>
> Brian
>
> dezhong wrote:
>
> > Hi, John,
> >
> > You misunderstand me. I like cisco and still work
> hard for my group as
> > before.
> > I only want to say here is: CCIE, just another IT
> certification. We don't
> > need to pay so much attention on it.
> > I don't know why so many people think it is so
> difficult and so valuable?
> >
> > Dezhong Cai
> > Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cameron, John" <johcamer@cisco.com>
> > To: "Cai, Dezhong" <dcai@cisco.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: CCIE, is it difficult? is it
> valuable?
> >
> > > I wonder why your working at cisco with this
> kind of attitude.
> > >
> > > This isn't going to do the company any good when
> you broadcast
> > > e-mails out too a public mail alias. What are
> you tring to
> > > state here?
> > >
> > > JC
> > >
> > > C i s c o S y s t e m s John Cameron
> > > Network
> Engineer
> > > Research
> Triangle Park
> > > || || Cisco
> Systems, Inc.
> > > || ||
> > > |||| ||||
> > > ..:||||||:..:||||||:..
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dezhong [mailto:dcai@cisco.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:59 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: CCIE, is it difficult? is it valuable?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, all,
> > >
> > > I heard many stories about how difficult to get
> the CCIE and how
> > > valuable it
> > > is. So now I'm.
> > >
> > > I joined Cisco last June as a new graduate
> student without any cisco
> > > background.
> > > I passed the CCIE in last Dec. My salary is
> still as low as 68,000. My
> > > grade is still as low as 6. And it seem there is
> no big promotion in the
> > > near future. No promotion to grade 8.
> > >
> > > I don't feel it is difficult to pass the CCIE. I
> also doubt the value of
> > > the
> > > CCIE. In my opinion, even you have CCIE, it
> still depend on whether you
> > > have
> > > good experience. Like me, without any work
> experience except in cisco
> > > for
> > > several months. Can you see I'm a valuable CCIE?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dezhong Cai
> > > Cisco Systems, CCIE # 6621
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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