Re: Another dlsw question

From: Rick Burts (burts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Jan 22 2001 - 15:50:13 GMT-3


   
Vikas

I think it would help to have a good understanding of the
difference between promiscuous peering and peer-on-demand
(which depends on the promiscuous keyword but is more than
just promiscuous). Promiscuous peering is that one router
includes on its local-peer the promiscuous capability and
the other router includes a specific remote-peer statement.
In promiscuous peering the DLSw session is set up when the
router with the specific remote-peer statement initializes.
This peering is set up before there is any end station
traffic or any attempt to establish DLSw circuits.
Peer-on-demand is more what you are describing and is
dependent on traffic looking for a remote destination to
find the remote peer and establish DLSw peering session.

Rick

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Vikas Gupta wrote:

> Fred,
>
> How would R4 and R5 initiate first session when they
> don't have any explicit remote-peer statements, they
> will only accept connections (not initiate) and then
> dlsw traffic can pass thru once the connection is
> made. In this case the very first session has to be
> from R2. Let's say any SNA device on R5 or R4 is
> trying to connect to a SNA host anywhere in the
> network and let us assume that there is nothing in the
> Dlsw cache, the first thing Dlsw will do is send
> explorers to all remote-peers but in this case there
> are no remote-peer statements configured and hence
> explorers will not be sent anywhere. If the SNA device
> would have been on R2 side , explorers will be sent to
> R4 and R5 as they are defined in remote-peer
> statements.
>
> Atleast this is my understanding. Any comments??
>
> Vikas
>
> --- Fred Ingham <fningham@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Agree on source-bridge ring group statement
> > unnecessary on Ethernet
> > routers. Disagree on which routers can initiate
> > sessions. Remote peer
> > statement only needs to be done on one side. R4 and
> > R5 can initiate
> > sessions to R2. R4 will not be able to initiate
> > session with R5 and
> > vice versa.
> >
> > Fred.
> >
> > "Hebert, Cory J (cory.hebert@wcom.com)" wrote:
> > >
> > > Tin,
> > >
> > > You wont need to use the statement "source-bridge
> > ring-group 200" on R5
> > > if there are no token ring interfaces present.
> > >
> > > The only thing with your configuration that I
> > think might cause a problem
> > > is that if R4 and R5 needed to initiate sessions,
> > they have no remote-peer
> > > statements to do so (that is, of course, assuming
> > they would be initiating
> > > sessions). The only way your configs would work is
> > only if hosts on the
> > > token ring segment of R2 were to initiate the
> > sessions (because R2 has the
> > > explicit remote peer statements).
> > >
> > > Hope this helps...
> > >
> > > Cory
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > > BUI, TIN T (SBCSI)
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:22 PM
> > > To: 'Ccielab (E-mail)'
> > > Subject: Another dlsw question
> > >
> > > I posted this a couple of weeks ago and everyone
> > seem to think my
> > > configuration would work, but after reading some
> > more, I think I'm missing
> > > the statement "source-bridge ring-group 200" on
> > R5. Reason is that from R5
> > > to R2 we are going from ethernet to Token ring.
> > Did everyone miss this or
> > > would this configuration actually work? I don't
> > have the correct equipment
> > > to test out this configuration so that's why I'm
> > asking. thanks
> > >
> > > Scenario: Configure R2, R4, and R5 for DLSW.
> > Configure filter so that the
> > > only protocol that is transported via dlsw is
> > netbios and apply this filter
> > > to R2 remote peer statements.
> > >
> > > R5:
> > > dlsw local-peer peer-id 150.100.5.5 group 100
> > promiscuous
> > > dlsw bridge-group 1
> > > int loopback 0
> > > ip address 150.100.5.5 255.255.255.0
> > > int e0
> > > bridge-group 1
> > > bridge 1 protocol ieee
> > >
> > > R2:
> > > source-bridge ring-group 200
> > > dlsw local-peer peer-id 150.100.2.2 group 100
> > border
> > > dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 150.100.4.4
> > lsap-output-list 200
> > > dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 150.100.5.5
> > lsap-output-list 200
> > > int loopback 0
> > > ip address 150.100.2.2 255.255.255.0
> > > int token0
> > > source-bridge 25 1 200
> > > source-bridge spanning
> > > access-list 200 permit 0xF0F0 0x0101
> > >
> > > R4:
> > > source-bridge ring-group 400
> > > dlsw local-peer peer-id 150.100.4.4 group 100
> > promiscuous
> > > int loopback 0
> > > ip address 150.100.4.4 255.255.255.0
> > > int token0
> > > source-bridge 26 1 400
> > > source-bridge spanning
> > >
> > >
> >



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