Re: ISDN questions ...!

From: Nigel Taylor (nigel_taylor@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Feb 04 2001 - 12:24:12 GMT-3


   
Frank,
            I noticed this... but I was under the impression that this was a
typo... Based on the topology map I see that the drawing has R2 connecting
to each spoke. But, looking at config for R1 in the solution it makes use
of the full mesh. In my config I'm using frame mappings from r3 to r2 and
r3 to r4. So with the config as they have it you cannot loose the frame
conn. from R2 to the cloud or R2 and R3 is isolated from the network.......

What I'm also trying to work out is the reasoning behind not using the full
mesh to provide connectivity in the event that r2 looses the frame circuit.
Also why make it the hub..? Wouldn't R4 be a better choice for being a hub
since it physically connected to the rest of the network....?

Another thing I observed was the frame cloud is configured as a broadcast
cloud but the "ip ospf priority" assigned to r3 and r4 uses a value of "0".
This is doesn't allow a DR to elected on the segment when r2 lost it's frame
connection to the cloud.....

Well, I think these labs are a good resource but I must remember they are
"FREE". I'm I thinking to much here or does the lab requirements not
provide a clear outline as to the requirements....? Can someone read the
Lab sheet and tell me if it's clear as to how the solution provided makes
sense and completes the requirements..

Nigel..

----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Liang <liangfrank@hotmail.com>
To: <nigel_taylor@hotmail.com>; <Justin.Menga@computerland.co.nz>;
<fwells12@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: ISDN questions ...!

> Nigel,
> by looking at the fatkid 401 diagram, the frame cloud is hub and spoke. If
you look at the solution, on R3, it maps r2 and r4 ip address to the same
dlci 102. R2 is a hub!
>
> FL
>
> >From: "Nigel Taylor" <nigel_taylor@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: "Nigel Taylor" <nigel_taylor@hotmail.com>
> >To: "Justin Menga" <Justin.Menga@computerland.co.nz>, "fwells12"
<fwells12@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Re: ISDN questions ...!
> >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:35:28 -0500
> >
> >Justin,
> > I'm using OSPF demand circuit and seeing the results I
> >described... I'm still trying to work through why R3 stays in a 2WAY
> >neighbor state with R4. In this scenario the frame cloud is full mesh.
> >
> >Any thoughts....
> >
> >Thanks
> >Nigel..
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Justin Menga <Justin.Menga@computerland.co.nz>
> >To: 'Nigel Taylor' <nigel_taylor@hotmail.com>; fwells12
> ><fwells12@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 6:07 AM
> >Subject: RE: ISDN questions ...!
> >
> >
> > > Well that just leaves OSPF demand circuit....
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Justin Menga CCIE #6640 MCSE+I CCSE
> > > WAN Specialist
> > > Computerland New Zealand
> > > PO Box 3631, Auckland
> > > DDI: (+64) 9 360 4864 Mobile: (+64) 25 349 599
> > > mailto: justin.menga@computerland.co.nz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:nigel_taylor@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 8:58 PM
> > > To: fwells12; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: ISDN questions ...!
> > >
> > >
> > > fwells12,
> > > The lab says I cannot use the backup interface
command,
> > > floating static's or watch groups....
> > >
> > > For more detail info.. it the 401 Adv. OSPF lab on www.fatkid.com.
> > >
> > > Nigel..
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: fwells12 <fwells12@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 2:42 AM
> > > Subject: Re: ISDN questions ...!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Make sure your idle-timeout is at least a minute, and that you have
the
> > > > backup command on the serial interface that is being backed up. Set
the
> > > > backup delay to be short coming up so routes start propagating
> > > immediately.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Nigel Taylor <nigel_taylor@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: Price, Jamie <JPrice@isgteam.com>; Cisco Group Study
> > > > <cisco@groupstudy.com>; CCIE_Lab Group Study
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Cc: Bryant Andrews <Bryant_Andrews@hotmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISDN questions ...!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > jamie,
> > > > > Ok, did some more testing and this thing will work
without
> >a
> > > > > name. I also changed the dialer idle-time-out value. The one
problem
> > > I'm
> > > > > seeing now is on router 2. When I pull the serial conn. from
router 3
> > > to
> > > > > the frame switch the bri line kick in and passes all the routes.
> >However
> > > > > when I break the link from r2 to the frame switch, nothing.....
R3
> > > never
> > > > > forms a full state with R4 and r2 and R3 doesn't pass routes even
> >though
> > > > the
> > > > > bri line is up....
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts..
> > > > >
> > > > > Nigel...
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Price, Jamie <JPrice@isgteam.com>
> > > > > To: 'Nigel Taylor' <nigel_taylor@hotmail.com>; Cisco Group Study
> > > > > <cisco@groupstudy.com>; CCIE_Lab Group Study
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Cc: Bryant Andrews <Bryant_Andrews@hotmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:49 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: ISDN questions ...!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just an FYI/gotcha
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think setting the dialer idle-timeout to 1 causes problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're all impatient and want the line to come down quickly so we
can
> > > > prove
> > > > > > the solution but I've noticed that when the "dialer
idle-timeout" is
> > > > less
> > > > > > than the "dialer wait-for-carrier-time" then behaviour that is
> > > > comparable
> > > > > to
> > > > > > what you mention here (flapping line) occurs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jamie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:nigel_taylor@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:38 AM
> > > > > > To: Cisco Group Study; CCIE_Lab Group Study
> > > > > > Cc: Bryant Andrews
> > > > > > Subject: ISDN questions ...!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm working through one of the labs at fatkid(401, Advanced
OSPF)
> >and
> > > =
> > > > > > have a couple of questions. The one part of the configuration I
> >can't
> > > =
> > > > > > understand is the BRI's on R2 and R3. There is no
configuration
> >for
> > > =
> > > > > > the name of the calling device or called device. when I tried
this
> > > the
> > > > =
> > > > > > routers would no connect, well at least not for more than a
second.
> >=
> > > > > > "debug ppp nego" showed called from <unknown> hang-up. Most
> >examples
> > > =
> > > > > > I've worked with makes use of the name option on the "dialer
map" =
> > > > > > command?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My other question is specific to the "dialer idle-timeout 1
either".
> > > I
> > > > =
> > > > > > know what the command does but with one second.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone worked through this lab and got it working with the
> > > solution
> > > > =
> > > > > > on the site... What was your observations on the bri line.
> > > > > > Mines keep bouncing up and down...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nigel..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >



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