From: Gregory W. Posey Jr. (gposey@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 16:55:03 GMT-3
Greetings, group. I'm VERY new to this distribution list, and I've been
sitting back to "listen" to all of the threads (and filing the pertinent
ones to help me with my August 9th lab date).
Maybe it's because I'm so new that I'm sort of dumbfounded at the amount of
feedback on this topic (and yes, I know I'm adding to it).
I too, have noticed that the numbers being added to the CCIE ranks has been
growing faster. In response, I considered that perhaps the removal of
certain topics was making things easier, the preparation materials have
proliferated, more and more people know about and are going for the CCIE (as
an Electrical Engineering graduate, I know that the majority of students in
Engineering Colleges know nothing about Cisco, IT Certifications, etc, - but
are almost perfectly suited for quickly absorbing, learning, and utilizing
the subject matter).
My reaction has been to plan for the bar being raised. At one time, having
a High School diploma was considered an accomplishment. In the Engineering
field, a B.S. was the mark of excellence - and the M.S. is quickly becoming
the standard. In the IT field, how could we expect the trend to migrate any
slower? After (hopefully) passing the R/S CCIE this year, I realize I need
to get a 2nd (or 3rd) CCIE if I really want to be in the upper-echelon. I'm
working harder, and studying more for this certification than I did in 6
years of undergrad and grad Engineering - but I realize that at age 27, I'm
far from the "I've done it, now I don't have to study anymore" status.
So I hope no one is offended by my view on the situation, but if anyone
thinks it's gotten so easy (as some of my professors at U of M complained
about the Undergrad Curriculum), then why not get another one? How many
double, or triple CCIE's are there in the world? Whether or not it's easier
to get - I'm sure there's not even one thousand of either in existence.
Thank you,
Greg Posey Jr.
CONECTS Network Analyst
CCNP - Security Specialist
Cisco Voice Access Specialist
www.conects.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Tyler Pomerhn
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Mark Lewis; brian@andyandbrian.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
> I know what you're saying, but it does SEEM like the pass
> rate has really jumped since dec/lat/lane/etc. have come off the test.
Let me lay out two very clear facts, here:
1) The pass rate is higher, and
2) The test is easier.
> Remember, all the
> resources (bootcamp labs/etc) have been around for quite a while.
Yup. And back when these resources weren't around, the CCIE wasn't as
hard as it was in late '99 because of fewer IOS features to exploit for
"landmines" and such.
> The CCIE numbers have been growing at about a thousand a year
I think it's amazing that since 1993, the CCIE has grown from 1024 to
6890 or so. Coming up on 6,000 numbers given out in only 8 years. I just
want that trend to continue.
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