From: Andrew Short (ashort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Feb 27 2001 - 18:50:21 GMT-3
Aha..it IS what you use it for...I didn't touch voice or isdn because I've
seen enough that already to choke a horse. I spent most of the time
(WASTED!) on appletalk, decnet, and LANE...If I am upset about anything in
my time spent there, it is that it was wasted studying materials that I
didn't get tested on. However, the time spent on the terminal server
(first time I had encountered one) and getting used to that, was
invaluable. I suppose in some ethereal sense...it was good that I learned
about those protocols, but I WISHED I had spent more time on BGP, DLSW,
and multicast.
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Mark Salmon wrote:
> I am less concerned about the knowledge of the lab monitor as I was with the
mess
> there. I wasted about 3 hours trying to patch stuff in the back and unfortun
ately,
> there was not enough rj45 on station 1 to make that possible.
>
> When I was there in September last year, I told the lab engineer that one rou
ter was
> faulty on rack 1. When I returned in February, the bad router was still ther
e. Due
> to the patch mess, I was not able to do as much scenarios as I would have lik
ed to.
> It is not all bad as they did have a couple new scenarios that ware great.,
However,
> the routers in the scenarios were not available in the rack, so I had to impr
ovise
> again wasting time as I had to steal routers from rack 1 and use them in rack
2.
>
> The main reason why I went there is to practice ISDN and voice and truthfully
, I was
> able to do a boatload of ISDN, however, I was hampered in my ability to set u
p some IP
> routing protocols to really test my ISDN scenarios. My .02.
>
> Andrew Short wrote:
>
> > That's interesting, because I was speaking exclusively from my experience
> > in the IUPUI Lab. However, I can certainly see where someone would walk
> > away with that opinion.
> >
> > My tac is that you really have to know what you are doing to begin with.
> > At one point, I asked the lab monitor if the CAt5k would do ISL, 802.1q,
> > or both...and he told me that he had NO idea what I was talking about, and
> > didn't know what "trunking" was. Isn't work study a great thing? =-)
> >
> > However, when I noted to the monitor that I required another fiber patch
> > cable in order to run connections through LS1010, he chased one down
> > quickly and before long I was dutifully WASTING MY TIME!!! configuring
> > LANE. =-)
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Mark Salmon wrote:
> >
> > > Good idea. I have used 2 practice labs. IUPUI in Indianapolis (stay awa
y from
> > > that one, it is messy and have non working equipment). University Of
> > > California Extension Santa Cruz (excellent equipment, and you are not all
owed to
> > > mess with the cables at the back) in Santa Clara just like in the real la
b. The
> > > lab engineer is a great guy too.
> > >
> > > Andrew Short wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would look into a 2-3 day stint at one of the Cisco practice labs.
> > > > They're $500 a day, very realistic rack (from a testing standpoint),
> > > > completely hands on, and the freedom to do just about anything you want
to
> > > > do with the equipment.
> > > >
> > > > I was critical of some things in the there until I took the real lab an
d
> > > > saw how close it was. They give you scenarios to work on but you can u
se
> > > > those or bring your own.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else use the practice labs?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Chuck Church wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Anyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm contemplating renting a simulator for a month, with my lab b
eing
> > > > > about 6 weeks away. Does anyone have one they'd like to rent or know
of a
> > > > > place renting them? I've been in contact with Merge Technologies -
> > > > > http://www.mergetech.com/new2000af_description.htm , but I'm a little
> > > > > hesitant about the $350/month price. Is there anything cheaper that
> > > > > supports S/T interfaces?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck Church
> > > > > CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> > > > > Sr. Network Engineer
> > > > > Magnacom Technologies
> > > > > 140 N. Rt. 303
> > > > > Valley Cottage, NY 10989
> > > > > 845-267-4000 x218
> > > > >
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