From: Ludwig A. Morales (morales_l@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 08:20:45 GMT-3
And your point is?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE #9240
> At 9:14 PM -0400 4/30/02, Ludwig Morales wrote:
> >Cool dude, this is the logest tread i've seem im this mailing list's
history
> >without using "NDA" .
> >I was thinking to let it slide myself but naaaa.
> >
> >First of all the fact that he took less time than you could provee that
the
> >exam is easier now or that he's more discipline and more inteligent than
> >you, that depends on your perspective and the choise that less ofends
you.
> >
> >Now to the CCIE Vs. experince stuff, i may be wrong but i think you are
> >comparing apples and oranges, i think i told this story before but well
what
> >the heck..
>
> Be careful about comparing anything to apples or you may irritate
> Priscilla. :-)
>
> >.
> >
> >in the first CCIE bootcamp i took our instructor conducted an small
survey
> >to measure the level of all atendees by making a list of the tecnologies
he
> >was about to explain by drawing two columns on a sheet, one was your
> >teorical experience and one was your practical experience regardig each
> >technology, one of the atendees sheets came to he's atention when he saw
> >that unlike all the rest of us this dude had more practical experience
than
> >theory, when he asked how come his answer was that he was able to
configure
> >and troubleshoot up to a point but for him sometimes the router was like
the
> >black box of a plane, he didn't know what the hell was inside of it.
when
> >the TAC told him to change some parameter he simply did it and did not
> >understand what was the purpose (this dude has been working with Cisco
for 4
> >years) so you see, CUIE does give you something, the knowledge of how
each
> >thing works, I dare anyone with more the 5 years of experience but with
> >never laying a hand on Doyle's to explain to me how igrp calculate it's
> >metric (remember the k values?) or the Lollipop-Shape Sequence number
space.
>
> :-) But how did JEFF learn it? (Actually, I asked him, and he got
> some informationr released, by Dino Farinacci IIRC). The lollipop
> sequence came from Radia Perlman (I was the reviewer of Jeff's OSPF
> chapter), and I believe she and/or the standard is credited. The
> best writeup of the lollipop is in her Interconnections book --
> better, I think, than John Moy's.
>
> >.
> >
> >Well anyway for those of you in the track dont let a coment like this
> >disapoint you, he's not right, he's not wrong that's just his point of
view
> >and you should not be worried about it (unless Robert is your boss,
jejejje)
> >
> >good luck to us, work hard and congratulate those who have achive their
goal
> >that helps us all aswell.
> >
> >OH and one last question, do you wake up in the morning and have all the
> >kwoledge to pass a CCIE exam? No? Then how do you get this kwoledge?
> >Uhhhhh trough experience?
>
> Take a look at a picture of Scott Bradner sometime; he has a slight
> resemblance to Santa Claus. Vint Cerf is no spring chicken. They
> still study.
>
> >
> >PS, been working in IT for 6 years now (thank God i'll be a CCIE that
have
> >been pushing and pulling routers for 6 years)
>
> let's see...I first started programming in 1966 or 7 (it blurs) and
> actually put together my 1st network in 1970. Hmmm...this week, I've
> learned some things about the application of control theory to
> routing protocols, about measurement timing issues in OSPF
> performance measurement, in some legal requirements for crypto in
> medical networks, and have been Perl programming since last week!
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