From: Paul Borghese (pborghese@groupstudy.com)
Date: Tue Sep 23 2003 - 13:13:11 GMT-3
Usually I try to avoid these types of squabbles, but as the guy who
receives the bills for GroupStudy I have to disagree that Netmaster does
not support us and the CCIE community. For years now they have been
purchasing advertising from GroupStudy and now they are allowing us to
sell their workbook and giving us a pretty good margin for each book
sold.
Without financial support from companies like Netmaster, I would have
had to close GroupStudy years ago.
Paul Borghese
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jay Tee
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:29 AM
To: christopher snow; asadovnikov
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Choosing the right workbook and bootcamp
Chris,
I think you have made a very good point. The two
Brians and a few other guys are really commited to the
ccie world.
Joe
--- christopher snow <cbsnow31@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Since I was the one one who initially spoke as
> saying
> NetMaster was overpriced, let me explain a few
> issues.
> First, I am sure their product is top-notch. I
> learned a lot from Bruce and Val's Bridges, Routers,
> and Switches book. The quality of the workbook is
> not
> the issue, as it has gotten rave reviews. My only
> comment was I would rather support a company that
> still GIVES back to the CCIE community. When was
> the
> last time a post was answered by Bruce or Val on
> groupstudy? I see posts from Internetwork Expert,
> IPExpert, and Hello Computers staff here all the
> time.
> On a personal note, my coworker went to the
> previous
> school,Mentor Tech, that was run by the NetMaster's
> instructors before going under. My friend stopped
> his
> CCIE studies to finish his Masters degree. He is
> now
> pursuing his IE again and contacted them about
> getting
> the workbook at the $395 price vs the $695 because
> it
> states that former students can get the workbook at
> a
> discount. The secretary advised that Bruce
> personally
> refused him the discount and said the would not
> honor
> his attendance. To me this is a little insulting
> after spending $4500 to attend a class and then
> being
> forgotten because the original company folded. I
> can
> understand that there is "no obligation" to honor
> the
> previous company but I still find it troubling. I
> have to question their "commitment" to ensuring
> their
> students success as one member stated here. I
> mean...
> $395 is still a nice chunk of change, it is not like
> he was asking for the book for free. However, like
> I
> said, I am sure it is an awsome product and if you
> do
> purchase it... buy it from groupstudy to support the
> efforts here! If you guys want to flame me then do
> it
> unicast. Good luck to all on your next and
> hopefully
> last lab attempt! Enough said.......:)
>
> Chris Snow
>
>
> --- asadovnikov <asadovnikov@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I agree with John. The netmasterclass book is
> > excellent. I do not think it
> > is overpriced compare to other products on the
> > market. I am as well open to
> > off-line questions.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alexei
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of John
> > Matijevic
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:42 PM
> > To: christopher snow; mikenoc@mindspring.com
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Choosing the right workbook and
> > bootcamp
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> > I have been to the netmaster bootcamp and have
> > purchased the DoIT labs, the
> > bootcamp is excellent, with some of the best
> > instructors I have had the
> > pleasure to work with. The DoIT lab workbook is
> > excellent, it has a spot the
> > issue section, that tells you about the hidden
> > issues in each lab. The
> > answer key is very good with very few errors. I
> have
> > posted a full review of
> > their workbook on www.netmasterclass.net. If you
> > have any further questions
> > please email me offline. I highly recommend
> > Netmaster bootcamp and DoIT
> > labs. The DoIT labs comes at a reduced price if
> you
> > attend their bootcamp.
> > Sincerely, Matijevic
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "christopher snow" <cbsnow31@yahoo.com>
> > To: <mikenoc@mindspring.com>
> > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 2:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Choosing the right workbook and
> > bootcamp
> >
> >
> > > I personally would wait for the new Internetwork
> > > Expert workbook. The owners Brain D and Brian M
> > are
> > > very active on this forum and always have an
> > answer.
> > > I know they will monitor their internal forum
> the
> > > same. I see a lot of vendors neglecting their
> > > cutomers questions after purchase and this is
> > > troubling. I am going to their bootcamp in Feb
> > and
> > > am awa the release of the lab book myself.
> Their
> > site
> > > is www.internetworkexpert.com. I have also
> heard
> > good
> > > things about netmaster but I think they are over
> > > priced.
> > >
> > > Chris Snow
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "mikenoc@mindspring.com"
> > <mikenoc@mindspring.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I am about to choose a workbook for doing
> > practice
> > > > labs and would like to
> > > > have a little feedback so I do not make any
> > mistakes
> > > > in purchasing the
> > > > wrong one. I believe I may go with
> > http://www.netmasterclass.net/
> > > > for the workbook since it has 22 full day labs
> > and from
> > > > previouse posts they seem
> > > > pretty acurate. I also would like some
> feedback
> > on
> > > > bootcamps as well so I
> > > > make sure when I do choose a bootcamp I choose
> > the
> > > > best one for my money.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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