From: Church, Chuck (cchurch@wamnetgov.com)
Date: Sun Dec 14 2003 - 23:11:49 GMT-3
Below.
Chuck Church
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
Wam!Net Government Services
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-----Original Message-----
From: Pun, Alec CL [mailto:Alec.CL.Pun@pccw.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:53 PM
To: Church, Chuck; Alec; Ozgur Guler (Garanti Teknoloji); ccielab
Subject: RE: ip helper-address
so that means the following pairs of command MUST be used together ?  thanks. 
1) if default 8 ports are required 
ip helper-address 
ip forward-protocol udp 
No.  If you only need the 8 default ports, you only need the helper address.  'ip forward-protocol udp' with no port listed will cause all UDP broadcasts to be 'helped'.
2) if additional udp port is required 
ip helper-address 
ip forward-protocol udp <new_port> 
Yes.
rgds, 
alec 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Church, Chuck [mailto:cchurch@wamnetgov.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:37 AM 
To: Alec; Ozgur Guler (Garanti Teknoloji); Pun, Alec CL; ccielab 
Subject: RE: ip helper-address 
No, it means that those ports are the default that an ip helper statement will handle.  If you configure a helper address on an interface and nothing else, these 8 ports will be forwarded:
69 TFTP 
67 BOOTP Client 
68 BOOTP Server 
37 Time Protocol 
49 TACACS 
53 DNS 
137 NetBios 
138 NetBios Datagram 
If you want to 'help' a protocol other than those above, add that port with the ip forward-protocol command.  If you don't want all 8 of the above forwarded (which is a good idea if you're only trying to get DHCP to work), then use a no ip forward-protocol udp x for those of the 8 that you don't need.
Chuck Church 
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE 
Wam!Net Government Services 
13665 Dulles Technology Dr. Ste 250 
Herndon, VA 20171 
Office: 703-480-2569 
Cell: 703-819-3495 
cchurch@wamnetgov.com 
PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=cchurch%40wamnetgov.com 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Alec [mailto:clapun@graduate.hku.hk] 
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:46 PM 
> To: Ozgur Guler (Garanti Teknoloji); Pun, Alec CL; ccielab 
> Subject: Re: ip helper-address 
> 
> 
> does that it mean if the destination port is TFTP, Domain 
> Name System (DNS), 
> Time, NetBIOS, ND, BOOTP or DHCP packet, then no ip 
> forward-protocol command 
> is needed ? 
> 
> rgds, 
> alec 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ozgur Guler (Garanti Teknoloji)" <OzgurG@garanti.com.tr> 
> To: "Pun, Alec CL" <Alec.CL.Pun@pccw.com>; "ccielab" 
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com> 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:20 AM 
> Subject: RE: ip helper-address 
> 
> 
> > CCO 
> > ----- 
> > 
> > All of the following conditions must be met in order for a UDP or IP 
> packet to be helpered by the ip helper-address command: 
> > 
> > The MAC address of the received frame must be all-ones 
> broadcast address 
> (ffff.ffff.ffff). 
> > The IP destination address must be one of the following: all-ones 
> broadcast (255.255.255.255), subnet broadcast for the 
> receiving interface; 
> or major-net broadcast for the receiving interface if the no 
> ip classless 
> command is also configured. 
> > The IP time-to-live (TTL) value must be at least 2. 
> > The IP protocol must be UDP (17). 
> > The UDP destination port must be for TFTP, Domain Name 
> System (DNS), Time, 
> NetBIOS, ND, BOOTP or DHCP packet, or a UDP port specified by the ip 
> forward-protocol udp global configuration command. 
> > 
> > 
> > Ozgur 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com 
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of 
> > Pun, Alec CL 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 6:02 PM 
> > To: ccielab 
> > Subject: ip helper-address 
> > 
> > 
> > When I use ip helper-address to handle, say DHCP request 
> where the server 
> is 
> > located on another subnet, do I need to use ip 
> forward-protocol udp as 
> well 
> > ? If not, when to use this command ? 
> > 
> > tks 
> > alec 
> > 
> > 
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