From: Michael Snyder (msnyder@revolutioncomputer.com)
Date: Sun Feb 01 2004 - 16:02:45 GMT-3
To pick at your analogy,
Chocolate is about 100% fuel for the human body. You would release CO2
from the chocolate as your body converted it to energy. Your
houseplants have benefited from the C02 you released.
If you had an agreement with the chocolate company not to share it, you
broke it when you shared the chocolate with your houseplants.
I like my car analogy better.
If you sell your car, the firmware and the owners manual goes to the
next owner. Let's not give GM the revenue idea of having to relicense
the car's firmware for each new owner. Nor let's not give the college
booksellers the revenue idea that each textbook can be only licensed to
one college student for one semester.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick [mailto:rick@iptool.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:41 PM
To: phase90; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Equipments [bcc][faked-from]
The difference is the intended purchase was for someone else to use to
begin
with. Not for your use first and then to give it away. I do not buy a
box of
chocolates as a gift and eat them first and then give them to someone as
a
"gift". Any one want a chocolate that I have already eaten?
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "phase90" <phase90@comcast.net>
To: "Snow, Tim" <timothy.snow@eds.com>; "marc russell"
<mrussell@ccbootcamp.com>; "'Subramanian, Muralidharan'"
<msubramanian@necbns.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Equipments [bcc][faked-from]
> Tim and everyone else,
>
> That would mean that none of the materials in question could
ever
> be bought as gifts. I'm
>
> sure that's never been done! :-)
>
>
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Snow, Tim" <timothy.snow@eds.com>
> To: "'phase90'" <phase90@comcast.net>; "marc russell"
> <mrussell@ccbootcamp.com>; "'Subramanian, Muralidharan'"
> <msubramanian@necbns.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:58 PM
> Subject: RE: CCIE LAB Equipments [bcc][faked-from]
>
>
> >
> > It's piracy either way you look at it. Most of those lab vendors
> (including
> > Cisco) have a no-resale/transfer statement in their EULA. One
should
read
> > them prior to purchasing.
> >
> > It's kind of like buy a piece of paper on eBay for $50 and as a free
gift
> > getting a satellite card that one could program. Whether you are
buying
> it
> > directly or it's being included in a package deal and listed as
free,
> there
> > are still issues with it. Not to mention, where does one get the
e-books.
> I
> > hope this person didn't buy the books, take out the cds, and
attempting
to
> > resell the e-book? That would be wrong.
> >
> > Tim
> > #12042
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > phase90
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 11:18 AM
> > To: marc russell; 'Subramanian, Muralidharan';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CCIE LAB Equipments [bcc][faked-from]
> >
> >
> > Please re-read original message ...
> >
> >
> > And also I am giving
> > away the study materials and lab scenarios I collected (for details,
> please
> > see below) for FREE.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "marc russell" <mrussell@ccbootcamp.com>
> > To: "'Subramanian, Muralidharan'" <msubramanian@necbns.com>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:07 AM
> > Subject: RE: CCIE LAB Equipments [bcc][faked-from]
> >
> >
> > > Please refrain from illegal activities. Most of the items below
are
> > > illegal to resell! E-books, Cisco IOS, certain practice labs, etc.
> > >
> > > Marc Russell
> > > Network Learning, Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf
> > > Of Subramanian, Muralidharan
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:45 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: CCIE LAB Equipments [bcc][faked-from]
> > > Importance: Low
> > >
> > > Hi Friends,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am selling all the equipments I gathered for CCIE lab. As you
can
> > > see the list below, I have everything you need to pass the exam.
You
> > > can practice all the lab scenarios with this setup. I am selling
this
> > > full kit at great price $4300 + Shipping and handling. And also I
am
> > > giving away the study materials and lab scenarios I collected (for
> > > details, please see below) for FREE. I paid a bundle to collect
all
> > > these equipments and materials, you get everything for just $4300.
If
> > > interested, Please email us at the address below.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > List of equipments Available for sale -------CCIE (R&S) lab
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Cisco 2501 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 2) Cisco 2501 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 3) Cisco 2501 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 4)Cisco 2501 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 5) Cisco 2501 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 6) Cisco 2501 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 7)Cisco 2510 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 AUI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > Terminal Server
> > >
> > > 8)Cisco 2517 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 BRI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 1 Token Ring
> > >
> > > 9) Cisco 2517 Series Router
> > >
> > >
> > > 1 BRI Interface
> > >
> > > 2 Serial Interface
> > >
> > > 1 Token Ring
> > >
> > > 10) 8 port 10baseT hub
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cables:
> > >
> > > Back to back Serial cables --- 6 no's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Octal cable --- 1 no
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Transceivers 10baseT ---- 4 no's
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PCMCIA Token Ring Card --- 1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You will get all the tems listed below For Free
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CCIE Practice Labs
> > >
> > > 1. MentorTech RS-NMC1 ( <outbind://5/www.netmasterclass.net>
> > > www.netmasterclass.net)
> > >
> > > 2. MentorTech RS-NMC2 ( <outbind://5/www.netmasterclass.net>
> > > www.netmasterclass.net)
> > >
> > > 3. Solutions Lab CCIE Labs ( <outbind://5/www.solutionslab.com>
> > > www.solutionslab.com)
> > >
> > > 4. CCPrep CCIE Labs ( <outbind://5/www.ccprep.com> www.ccprep.com)
> > >
> > > 5. Global Knowledge Network ACP1 CCIE Labs (
> > > <outbind://5/www.globalknowledge.com> www.globalknowledge.com) 6.
> > >
> > > 6. Boson CCIE Labs (
> > > <http://bosontraining.com/ccie_files/Boson_Labs.pdf>
> > > http://bosontraining.com/ccie_files/Boson_Labs.pdf )
> > >
> > > 7. IPExpert CCIE Labs ( <outbind://5/www.ipexpert.net>
> > > www.ipexpert.net)
> > >
> > > 8. NetworkForce CCIE Labs ( <outbind://5/www.networkforce.com>
> > > www.networkforce.com)
> > >
> > > 9. CCBootcamp Labs ( <outbind://5/www.ccbootcamp.com>
> > > www.ccbootcamp.com)
> > >
> > > 10.6Colabs CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 11.Certification Zone CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 12.Coolcram CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 13.Cyscoexpert CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 14.FatKid CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 15.GlobalITCert.com CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 16.Infocert.com CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 17.Routopia CCIE Labs
> > >
> > > 18.Hellocomputers CCIE Labs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cisco CIMS
> > >
> > > 1. Cisco CIM - Basic Voice over IP
> > >
> > > 2. Cisco CIM - BGP
> > >
> > > 3. Cisco CIM - Access ISDN v3
> > >
> > > 4. Cisco CIM CCIE Expert Labs, Multiprotocol Challenge
> > >
> > > 5. Cisco CIM CCIE Expert Labs: IP Routing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > E-books
> > >
> > > 1. Internet Routing Architecture 2nd Edition
> > >
> > > 2. Internetworking Case Studies
> > >
> > > 3. Routing TCPIP v1
> > >
> > > 4. Routing TCPIP v2
> > >
> > > 5. CCIE Practical Studies by Karl Solie
> > >
> > > 6. Bridges, Router, and Switches for CCIEs by Bruce Caslow
> > >
> > > 7. Inside Cisco IOS Software Architecture
> > >
> > > 11. CCIE Network Design
> > >
> > > 12. CCIE Fundamentals Network Design and Case Studies
> > >
> > > 13. Cisco IP Routing Fundamentals
> > >
> > > 14. Internetworking Troubleshooting Handbook
> > >
> > > 15. Introduction to Network Analysis
> > >
> > > 12. Advanced Network Analysis Techniques
> > >
> > > 13. Cisco IOS Access List
> > >
> > > 14. Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook
> > >
> > > 15. Basic TCP.IP Configuration
> > >
> > > 16. Internetworking with ATM v3
> > >
> > > 17. IP Quality of Service
> > >
> > > 18. MPLS and VPN Architecture
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Misc Items. (This includes Case Studies, IOS, and Full
Applications)
> > >
> > > 1.Catalyst 3550 - Configuration Overview (PDF Document)
> > >
> > > 2. BGP4 Case Studies by Sam Halabi
> > >
> > > 3. OSPF Network Design (A good overview of OSPF)
> > >
> > > (PDF Document)
> > >
> > > 4. Networkers 2002 PowerPoints
> > >
> > > 5. Tips and Tricks for passing the lab. This info. was provided by
> > >
> > > fellow CCIE's. (Word Document)
> > >
> > > 6. How to setup a cost effective CCIE Lab. (Word Document)
> > >
> > > 7. Cisco Official TFTP Server_1.1 (Application)
> > >
> > > 8. Ip Subnetter (Application)
> > >
> > > 9. Ciscoworks2001 v6 (For NT) (Application)
> > >
> > > 10. Sniffer Pro. v4.7 (Application)
> > >
> > > 11. IOS - ENTERPRISE-FW.PLUS.IPSEC.56 (IOS)
> > >
> > > 12. Secure CRT - Telnet Application (Application)
> > >
> > > 13. Cisco Config Register (Application)
> > >
> > > 14. Cisco Config Maker (Application)
> > >
> > > 15. Common lab mistakes to avoid(Word Document)
> > >
> > > 16. Lab Strategies (Word Document)
> > >
> > > 17. IP Subnetting Tutorial (Word Document)
> > >
> > > 18. CCIE Cramsheet (Word Document)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CCIE Written Exam Preparation Items
> > >
> > > 1. CCIE Written Exam Real Test Question - Testking v7
> > >
> > > 2. Cisco Press - CCIE Routing & Switching Certification Guide
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Contact Details :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Murali
> > >
> > > Email : <mailto:muralisubbu@comcast.net> smd_06@comcast.net
> > >
> > > Ph # 214-968-1056
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rajeev
> > >
> > > Email : <mailto:k_s_rajeev@yahoo.com> k_s_rajeev@yahoo.com
> > >
> > > Ph # 214-929-1601
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 'Regards,
> > > Murali Subramanian
> > > NEC Business Network Solutions Inc.,
> > > Ph # 214-262-6441
> > > Fax # 214-262-6850
> > >
> > >
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