From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Fri Mar 12 2004 - 16:57:27 GMT-3
         Technically it can also be used in a sparse-dense configuration,
but will only be applicable to groups that are in sparse mode, as it
requires the explicit join messages that are inherent to sparse-mode
operation.
HTH,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
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From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:richard.dumoulin@vanco.es] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:50 PM
To: richardyun@adelphia.net; Brian McGahan; 'Packet Man';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE: IP PIM nbma-mode
Hi 
"This command applies to only PIM sparse mode configurations because its
functionality is dependent on the PIM sparse mode join message." 
taken from Scott's link, 
--Richard 
-----Mensaje original----- 
De: richardyun@adelphia.net [mailto:richardyun@adelphia.net] 
Enviado el: viernes, 12 de marzo de 2004 20:40 
Para: Brian McGahan; 'Packet Man'; ccielab@groupstudy.com 
Asunto: Re: RE: IP PIM nbma-mode 
Hi Brian, 
Isn't "ip pim nbma-mode" used primarily for "ip pim sparse-mode" and not for
"ip pim sparse-dense-mode"? 
Correct me if I'm wrong. 
Thanks, 
Richard 
> 
> From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> 
> Date: 2004/03/12 Fri PM 01:27:13 EST 
> To: "'Packet Man'" <ccie2b@hotmail.com>,  <ccielab@groupstudy.com> 
> Subject: RE: IP PIM nbma-mode 
> 
> > Now, just to be 100% sure, you're saying that on the spoke F/R routers, 
> > nbma-mode isn't needed, but having it there doesn't do any harm. And, as
> > long as it's configured on the hub F/R router everything's OK. correct? 
> 
>       It's best not to associate general rules with configuration.  Know 
> what problem PIM NBMA mode is used to address.  If you see this problem 
> occur, then you know when it appropriate to use PIM in this fashion. 
> 
> > Also, if a F/R interface has p2m subinterfaces, does it matter whether
the 
> > multicast interface commands (ip pim sparse-dense-mode, ip pim
nbma-mode) 
> > are configured on the physcial interface or p2m sub-interfaces? 
> 
>       Yes is must be on the interface where the IP address is configured 
> and where PIM is enabled. 
> 
> > PS: How do manage to keep so much info in your head?  It seems like you 
> > never suffer from leaky bucket syndrone.  How is that? 
> 
>       Most of it I just make up, but no one seems to no the difference ;) 
> 
> 
> HTH, 
> 
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com 
> 
> Internetwork Expert, Inc. 
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com 
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Packet Man [mailto:ccie2b@hotmail.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:21 PM 
> > To: bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com 
> > Subject: RE: IP PIM nbma-mode 
> > 
> > Thanks, Brian. 
> > 
> > Now, just to be 100% sure, you're saying that on the spoke F/R routers, 
> > nbma-mode isn't needed, but having it there doesn't do any harm. And, as
> > long as it's configured on the hub F/R router everything's OK. correct? 
> > 
> > Also, if a F/R interface has p2m subinterfaces, does it matter whether
the 
> > multicast interface commands (ip pim sparse-dense-mode, ip pim
nbma-mode) 
> > are configured on the physcial interface or p2m sub-interfaces? 
> > 
> > thanks again. 
> > 
> > PS: How do manage to keep so much info in your head?  It seems like you 
> > never suffer from leaky bucket syndrone.  How is that? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> 
> > >To: "'Packet Man'" <ccie2b@hotmail.com>,<ccielab@groupstudy.com> 
> > >Subject: RE: IP PIM nbma-mode 
> > >Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:49:33 -0600 
> > > 
> > >   If there is only a single circuit on the interface it would not be 
> > >appropriate to configure nbma mode, however it wouldn't really do 
> > anything 
> > >bad. 
> > > 
> > >   The point of nbma mode is to associate a particular circuit in the 
> > >outgoing list instead of the interface itself.  This is accomplished by
> > >associating the neighbor IP address instead of the interface.  In the 
> > case 
> > >that there is only one neighbor on the interface, associating either
the 
> > >interface or the neighbor ip address in the OIL would accomplish the
same 
> > >thing. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >HTH, 
> > > 
> > >Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 
> > >bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com 
> > > 
> > >Internetwork Expert, Inc. 
> > >http://www.InternetworkExpert.com 
> > >Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705 
> > >Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of 
> > > > Packet Man 
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:39 AM 
> > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com 
> > > > Subject: IP PIM nbma-mode 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi guys, 
> > > > 
> > > > In Solie's PS II, his example shows "ip pim nbma-mode" configured on
> > all 
> > > > p2m 
> > > > interfaces connected to the F/R network.  I thought this was only 
> > needed 
> > > > on 
> > > > the hub router - not on the spoke routers. 
> > > > 
> > > > Is this a mistake in my thinking or has Solie made another mistake? 
> > > > 
> > > > Also, if this command is needed on the spoke routers, could someone 
> > > > explain 
> > > > why. 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance, pm 
> > > > 
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