From: Jason Graun (jgraun@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Mar 31 2004 - 00:14:45 GMT-3
AMEN DAVID
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
David Hiers
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:34 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: How to ask a question
Hi,
Its funny how the list of tips did not include reading a book (other than
the product manual), so Howard's out of a job.  Nor did the list include
taking a class, so Brian is out of a job, too.  You two need to co-author a
revision to that list! :)
Personally, I'd rather spend 5 hours experimenting than ask a 1 minute
question.  Busting my knuckles is simply how I learn, retain, and synthesize
new knowledge.  I can never consider my lab time as "wasted", since it is
the critical foundation to my  personal learning style.
Everyone has  their own way of learning, of course.
David
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-----Original Message-----
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:hcb@gettcomm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:05 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: How to ask a question
At 7:44 PM -0500 3/30/04, Brian McGahan wrote:
>Jonathan,
>
>	Instead of wasting all this time on researching the answer,
>wouldn't it just be easier to ask somebody that already knows?
On the chance you are being serious and not sarcastic, I suppose I 
tend to go with wanting to see some effort first. Let me elaborate on 
that. If people are going to be successful at any serious level in 
the business, they are going to have to become proficient at research 
anyway.
Today, for example, I asked a question about a particular way that I 
thought _ought_ to exist to use a route map to set and match IGP 
tags, but not directly as mechanism tied to a redistribute statement. 
I reviewed how the equivalent functionality exists for BGP 
communities, that there is a way to tag static routes, and that I 
hadn't been able to find anything on CCO.  I also suggested that if 
the mechanism had been implemented anything like the way it's done in 
BGP, it might be a special command associated with neighbor, although 
I haven't been able to find it.
I also did some compare-and-contrast, trying to give information as 
well as request it, to the role of route tags in the protocols that 
support them, and the logical equivalence of route tags and BGP 
communities -- identifiers for groups of routes. One colleague is 
trying it in the lab and still hasn't found a way to do it.
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