From: Jonathan R. Charles (jrcdehc@ameritech.net)
Date: Thu Sep 02 2004 - 02:23:34 GMT-3
Same here, I love SBC, my job is cool as hell, I get to flex my brain
constantly during the day, and I have found the company to be nothing but
supportive with my own career/certification goals (they even gave me a rack
of equipment to study with when I passed my CCIE Written).
Then again, I am relatively new (been working for them for a few months),
but I work for AADS, and it is one of the best jobs I have ever had.
Every job is what you make it. I have found that most of the people that are
dissatisfied with their jobs feel that way because they don't care about
them. It is your responsibility to make your job your own, and to make
yourself indispensable to the company. Not the other way around.
BTW, the job sounds kind of cool, but I am pretty happy where I am (both
geographically and career-wise). Is this an SBCLD thing (being outside
Ameritech/MOKA-T/SWB area?)
Jonathan Charles
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, NNCSE, NNCSS, A+
Data Services Engineer
SBC Data Services Customer Care (ASI, AADS)
PS: I am not going to post my SUITSID, Ken, if you want to contact me
directly, look me up in phone.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
BROWNE, KEN (AIT)
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:54
To: Georg Pauwen; JoeDeleonardo@cox.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern Virginia
It sounds like Joe has had the opposite experience that I've had at SBC.
I work 40 hours a week, get trained, SBC put me through an MBA program,
paid for my certifications, and didn't lay me off. I'm glad I didn't
work for Joe's organization at SBC! Thanks. Ken.
Ken Browne
Systems Engineering Manager
CCNP, CCDP
SBC Advanced Enterprise Solutions Engineering
-----Original Message-----
From: Georg Pauwen [mailto:pauwen@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:50 AM
To: JoeDeleonardo@cox.net; BROWNE, KEN (AIT); ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern Virginia
Sounds like a description of the average IT job these days...
>From: "Joe Deleonardo" <JoeDeleonardo@cox.net>
>Reply-To: "Joe Deleonardo" <JoeDeleonardo@cox.net>
>To: "BROWNE, KEN (AIT)" <kb8632@sbc.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Re: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern
Virginia
>Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:37:39 -0700
>
>Well since we're going off topic. I worked for SBC for 5 years. You
will
>never experience more bullshit and corporate politics in your life.
Then
>after 5 years of service you can expect to be laid off when the economy
>gets shaky... even though you may have stayed when other job offers
were
>better during better economic times, you may have worked 70-80 hours
per
>week on salary and may have sacrificed your education and time with
your
>family for the company.
>
>Bitter? You're dam right! Everyone out there just remember SBC doesn't
care
>about you. They care about their bottom line. Concentrate on your
family
>first, then your CCIE [education is your future], then your job.
>
>CCIE 12391
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "BROWNE, KEN (AIT)" <kb8632@sbc.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:02 AM
>Subject: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern Virginia
>
>
>>Hi Everybody:
>>
>>SBC, a fortune 25 company, is seeking a Cisco-centric pre-sales
>>engineer in the Northern Virginia, Baltimore, Sterling area. High
pay,
>>retirement program, matching 401k, long term full time employment,
very
>>stable company, medical, dental, vision, disability, life insurance.
>>This position is for a CCNP/DP type, with strong Cisco technical
skills.
>>Minimal travel locally. In this position, you will work with SBC
>>Advanced Enterprise Solutions sales teams to design solutions within
the
>>Cisco, Sniffer, Juniper, and various vendor's enterprise environments.
>>You will see every type of equipment, and be involved in some of the
>>largest enterprise networks in Northern Virginia. Additionally, SBC
>>pays for, and deeply encourages training and certification. All
>>inquiries are treated with strict confidentiality. If you have
>>interest, please contact me via email at kb8632@sbc.com.
>>
>>
>>Ken Browne
>>Systems Engineering Manager
>>CCNP, CCDP
>>SBC Advanced Enterprise Solutions Engineering
>>
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