From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 03 2004 - 20:58:45 GMT-3
I'm always skeptical when a company would say "we have a quad CCIE program",
like they grow on trees or something. Common sense tells you, bootcamp or
no, you have to work at it. I did look at hello but other than not believing
their claims it would require travel for me to attend the camps.
josh
>From: "Andy Mrozek" <AndyMrozek@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: <AndyMrozek@yahoo.com>
>To: "'joshua lauer'" <jslauer@hotmail.com>,"'Dave
Meyer'" <dave.meyer@db.com>,"'Brian McGahan'"
<bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
>CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>,<nobody@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: OT: bootcamps
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:50:06 -0700
>
>I highly not recomend Hellocomputers I went to one of there bootcamps
and I
>almost walked out there was no constructive , methodical method to
anything
>in that lab camp.... I wish it was as I had great respect for Keyur and
>always wanted him as an instructor ... But sadly I was let down.... No
>topics were really fully discussed at all.... To me a bootcamp or
workbook
>is to provide an accelerated , detailed technology topic... And I have
now
>since used NMC Doit and Internetworkexpert and thought they were
>outstanding... My advice to all is stay well away from Hellocomputers
...
>Numourous other folks I know have the same feeling there communication
is
>poor also ,,, I am currently trying to get my $5000 grand back.... I
wish it
>wasnt that way ... but hey if you advertise all this great stuff ... And
you
>sit in a class room for 5 days and say about 40 words and have a ccnp
with
>no experience answer questions ... Then you deserve bad publicity...Also
I
>am looking at the InternetworkExpert Vod .... Does anyone know how long
each
>cd is hour wise ???
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>joshua lauer
>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:40 PM
>To: Dave Meyer; Brian McGahan
>Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; nobody@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: OT: bootcamps
>
>
>I'm thinking about bootcamps, I actually have been looking at both
IPEXPERT
>and internetworkexpert stuff. Both seem quality. In the end I'll likely
end
>up a global knowledge. I didnt seem to have a rough time talking my
company
>into forking out money for all the CCSP classes so I dont think two
weeks of
>bootcamp from global will be an issue. I just hope I can get it in time
for
>my lab :) I think Paul is the instructor the D.C. area.
>
>If this all fails I'll likely do VOD from IPEXPERT since I have all
their
>stuff anyway and I'm familiar with it. They are great, the lab books
really
>make you know the material. I made sure to study and do all the labs
(1-19)
>before I hit the multiprotocol ones, just to make sure all loose ends
were
>tied up...I did some of them multiple times. That said, I have looked at
>Internetwork expert and others, the only one I really dont care for is
>hellocomputers but they seem to churn out some CCIE's too. They have
some
>training program for a "quad CCIE" or something like
that........
>
>josh
>Josh Lauer
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Meyer" <dave.meyer@db.com>
>To: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
>Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <nobody@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:14 PM
>Subject: RE: OT: bootcamps
>
>
> > This is great stuff !!!
> >
> > Thanks for making me smile, I was having a rough day.
> >
> > Kinda like having the Grand Masters duke it out in the Octagon !!
> >
> > I personally appreciate all your comments.... have a great weekend
!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Brian McGahan"
> > <bmcgahan@internetwork To:
><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > expert.com> cc:
> > Sent by: Subject: RE:
OT:
>bootcamps
> > nobody@groupstudy.com
> >
> >
> > 09/03/2004 06:56 PM
> > Please respond to
> > "Brian McGahan"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > I hate to beat a dead horse here, but what are you
even doing
>on
> > this mailing list? I just did a search of the groupstudy archives
for
> > number of posts after you mentioned about contributions.
> >
> > It turns out that since 1999 you've made a total of
36 posts,
> > and just 1 of which was related to a technical topic. That means
that
> > you're off-topic 97.2% of the time! ;) Don't believe it? See for
> > yourself:
> >
> >
http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/search?query=wayne+lawson&metaname=Aut
> >
hor&sort=swishrank&si=1&DateRanges_date_option=All&DateRanges_start_mon=
> >
9&DateRanges_start_day=3&DateRanges_start_year=2004&DateRanges_end_mon=9
> > &DateRanges_end_day=3&DateRanges_end_year=2004
> >
> > Furthermore it turns out that Scott is the leader
with 1378
> > posts, while Brian Dennis is in a close second with 1274, and I'm
only
> > at a measly 833!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
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> > Live Chat: http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/
> >
> >
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