From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Thu Sep 23 2004 - 02:47:55 GMT-3
But they work!  :) 
-----Original Message-----
From: joshua lauer [mailto:jslauer@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:31 AM
To: Eric Hoffman; neil@droopy.com; phase90@comcast.net; swm@emanon.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: top ten list: ways to spot somebody who is not a CCIE
I like number four :) I just pulled a 520 out of storage today, for real :)
big ugly loud beast it is...........and end of life :(
josh
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Hoffman" <skeetin@hotmail.com>
To: <neil@droopy.com>; <phase90@comcast.net>; <swm@emanon.com>;
<jslauer@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: top ten list: ways to spot somebody who is not a CCIE
>I am glad to see that Josh got this guy to hang himself!
>
> I thought of one line, and then couldn't just stop.  The list below is 
> dedicated to those who are burnt out from studying, and are looking 
> for any reason to laugh.
>
> Top ten ways to spot somebody who is NOT a CCIE:
>
> 10.  Brags he has a frankenIDS running on Tandy 1000HX in his home lab.
> 9.  Swears that Token ring was named after creative jewelry used at 
> Woodstock '69.
> 8.  IPX is the protocol used by people who like to participate in 
> extreme sports.
> 7.  Sniffer?!?....  I hardly knew.... <edited/radio bleep> .
> 6.  A GRE tunnel is a sandwich with gravy, radishes, and eggs.
> 5.  TARP -- Trap And Release Protocol.  Term used in I.T. to describe 
> unscrupulous consultants.  It can be compared to what a phony 
> exterminator would do:
> Hired to kill cockroaches, leaves mouse droppings behind to generate 
> more billable hours...
> 4.  Held a Pix 520 interface, while it gave birth to the first pix 501.
> 3.  Is not quite sure, but thinks BSTUN is a setting used on token 
> ring phasers.
> 2.  Can speak 6 dailects of appletalk.
> and the number 1 way to spot somebody who is not a CCIE:
> 1.  Says he has every Cisco cert in the world, can't remember his CCIE #.
>
> Ok folks, now get back to studying/work!  :)
>
> Eric Hoffman
> CCIE #13843
>
>>Ask him for a picture of his plaque or medallion ya just don't loose 
>>those!.. I am not defending him.. but the guy may have been thinking 
>>CCNP and that has a number, of which I can not remember mine off the 
>>top of my head :) , and was trying to impress you..
>>Neil Moore #10044 (R&S/Security) <--For Real! :)
>
>>
>> > Scott & all,
>> >             What Josh ran into we have alot of at my place of work. 
>> > They
>> > have been around since the dawn of man and I believe are mentioned 
>> > in Mel Brooks film History of the World Part I.
>> > This is known as the bullshit artist and, unlike the CCIEs, there 
>> > is no shortage of them. To my taste there are a surplus but thank 
>> > god  for anyone on this list they
>>should
>> > be very easy to spot.
>> > I ran into one 3 or 4 years back of all places at the route 70 flea 
>> > market in Dover Twp. NJ. and this one even had the gall to give me 
>> > his card but, alas, like the 1 on Josh's story he had a problem 
>> > with the number  At the time I was going to the local Cisco field 
>> > office in Mt.Laurel NJ to practice labs  and I gave it to 1 of the 
>> > real CCIEs and
>>they
>> > dealt with it through whatever means they do!
>> >
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
>> > To: "'joshua lauer'" <jslauer@hotmail.com>; 
>> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:07 PM
>> > Subject: RE: What CCIE would forget his number?
>> >
>> >
>> > > Personally, I'd contact ccie@cisco.com (or look at the web site 
>> > > for
>>other
>> > > links) and report the person as one who is misrepresenting 
>> > > himself as a CCIE.  I'm sure there are some legal ramifications 
>> > > in that as well as
>>the
>> > > whole "duh" factor of the guy opening his mouth like that in a
>>relatively
>> > > small industry.  ;)
>> > >
>> > > Enjoy the talk with his supervisor!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) 
>> > > #4713,
>>CISSP,
>> > > JNCIP, et al.
>> > > IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
>> > > IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor 
>> > > swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
>> > > http://www.ipexpert.net
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On 
>> > > Behalf Of joshua lauer
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:03 PM
>> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > Subject: OT: What CCIE would forget his number?
>> > >
>> > > I know this is off topic but I'm kind of seared about this......
>> > >
>> > > Was in the elevator at work, a technician from the server farm
>>maintenece
>> > > guys
>> > > (contractor) saw my ccie study material in hand on the way out 
>> > > the door.
>> > He
>> > > mentioned that he was a CCIE (Bull) and that he was planning on 
>> > > getting recertified (This is a server maintence guy).
>> > >
>> > > I asked him his number and lo and behold.......he forgot it! I 
>> > > also
>>asked
>> > > him where he took his lab, he mentioned washington D.C. (If there 
>> > > is one there that I havent heard about please correct me, I would 
>> > > save big on travel to the lab and hotel rooms).
>> > >
>> > > He then went on to mention how he had every cisco certification 
>> > > there was......I was pretty speechless after that.
>> > >
>> > > Is there anyway to verify by name that this guy doesnt have one? 
>> > > Since
>>he
>> > > doesnt have a number (he forgot) I cant do it that way. Cause I 
>> > > want
>>some
>> > > ammo when I talk to this lyin' fools supervisor tomorrow.
>> > >
>> > > josh
>> > > Josh Lauer
>> > >
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