From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Fri Nov 12 2004 - 22:45:41 GMT-3
Hi David,
        I see that the subscription you're logging in to the
technologies lab with is not registered under your name, nor have you
ever been a customer of Internetwork Expert.  Furthermore, the only
reference I can see to a "David Sloan" on groupstudy is the following
post:
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200211/msg00503.html
David A. Sloan
President, I P expert . net
CCIE #6976, CCSI #21666 (Rt.)
        Is this you David, or am I mistaken?  I find it odd that instead
of contacting Internetwork Expert directly for any legitimate product
related questions you instead choose to slander us on a public mailing
list.
        For those of you wondering about the legitimacy of this claim,
yes it is true the lab series is not complete.  However, the idea of
this new format we're delivering the content in is that instead of
waiting months for a new product to be released, we are offering this
series on a subscription basis that costs about $12 per month.  
        This way we can continue development on the series indefinitely
and it will never become obsolete.  In other words the series will NEVER
be complete.  I have personally been posting the labs in this series
every day since its release about two weeks ago.  There are currently
over 75 labs in the series, such as:
Understanding Layer 2 Access Switchports 
Understanding ISL Trunk Ports 
Understanding 802.1q Trunk Ports 
Understanding 802.1q Trunk Ports and the Native VLAN 
Configuring Trunk Ports without DTP 
Router-on-a-Stick 
Router-on-a-Stick and the Native VLAN 
EtherChannel 
EtherChannel - PAgP 
EtherChannel - PagP Auto 
EtherChannel - LACP 
EtherChannel - LACP Passive 
EtherChannel - Layer 3 
Frame-Relay Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Static Mapping 1 
Frame-Relay Inverse-ARP & Static Mappings 
Frame-Relay Multipoint Interfaces: Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Multipoint Interfaces: Static Mappings 
Frame-Relay Multipoint Interfaces: Inverse-ARP & Static Mappings 
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces 
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Main Interfaces:
Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Main Interfaces: Static
Mappings 
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Multipoint Subinterfaces:
Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Point-to-Point Subinterfaces and Multipoint Subinterfaces:
Static Mapping 
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Inverse-ARP, Multipoint Interface:
Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Inverse-ARP, Multipoint Interface: Static
Mapping 
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Static Mapping, Multipoint Interface:
Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Main Interface: Static Mapping, Multipoint Interface: Static
Mapping 
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces with Inverse-ARP 
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Inverse-ARP & Static
Mappings 
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Static Mappings 
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Inverse-ARP &
Point-to-Point Subinterfaces 
Frame-Relay Hub-and-Spoke, Main Interfaces w/ Static Mappings &
Point-to-Point Subinterfaces 
ATM PVC Main Interface w/ Inverse-ARP 
ATM PVC Main Interface w/ Static Mapping 
ATM PVC Main Interface w/ Legacy Static Mapping 
ATM PVC Multipoint Subinterface w/ Inverse-ARP 
ATM PVC Multipoint Subinterface w/ Static Mapping 
ATM PVC Point-to-Point Subinterface 
ATM PVC Discovery w/ Main Interface 
ATM PVC Discovery w/ Multipoint Subinterface 
ATM PVC Discovery w/ Point-to-Point Subinterface 
ATM SVC Static Mapping w/ Main Interface 
ATM SVC Static Mapping w/ Main Interface & Static NSAP 
ATM SVC Static Mapping w/ Multipoint Subinterface 
ATM SVC CLIP w/ Remote ARP-Server 
ATM SVC CLIP w/ Local ARP-Server 
ISDN Layer 2 Connectivity 
ISDN Legacy DDR 
ISDN Dialer Profiles 
ISDN Legacy DDR and Dialer Profiles 
ISDN Dialer Load-Threshold 
ISDN Dialer Load-Threshold (II) 
Legacy DDR with PPP 
ISDN Legacy DDR without Dialer Maps w/HDLC 
ISDN Legacy DDR with PPP and Dynamic Dialer Maps 
ISDN Legacy DDR with PPP PAP Authentication 
ISDN Legacy DDR with PPP CHAP Authentication 
Legacy Custom Queueing 
MQC Bandwidth 
Legacy Priority Queueing 
MQC Low Latency Queue 
Legacy Generic Traffic Shaping 
MQC Shaping 
Legacy Frame Relay Traffic Shaping 
MQC Frame Relay Traffic Shaping 
Legacy Committed Access Rate 
MQC Policing 
DLSw+ TCP Encapsulation 
DLSw+ FST Encapsulation 
DLSw+ Direct over Frame Relay 
DLSw+ Lite over Frame Relay 
DLSw+ Direct over HDLC	
        If anyone else has any questions related to this product you can
email me offlist or find me on our chat server at
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/
Thanks,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com 
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> David Sloan
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:06 PM
> To: ccie2be@nyc.rr.com
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare
> 
> Because it's their product...  Go to their website...  It's a new
product.
> 
> 
> >From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
> >To: "David Sloan" <jadin_321@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Re: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare
> >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:02:51 -0500
> >
> >What does the CCIE Routing & Technologies Labs have to do with
> Internetwork
> >Expert (IE)?
> >
> >Those guys at IE, Brian Dennis and Brian McGahan, are giants in
> networking
> >and they've created the best practice labs workbook on the market
IMHO.
> >
> >From the subject line of your post, it sounds like you're slandering
the
> >best ccie prep company out there today.
> >
> >Tim
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Sloan" <jadin_321@hotmail.com>
> >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:32 PM
> >Subject: Internetwork Expert and VaporWare
> >
> >
> > > FYI for anyone interested in subscribing to the "CCIE Routing &
> >Technologies
> > > Labs."
> > >
> > > Most of subjects listed under each of the three catagories aren't
even
> > > available yet.  The most rediculous item is this though.   The
first
> >line
> >of
> > > the description is:
> > >
> > > "Are you looking to isolate your CCIE lab preparation on an
individual
> >topic
> > > basis? Tired of spending hours setting up a lab topology just to
see
> how
> >BGP
> > > works?"
> > >
> > > You won't find any BGP here...  Yet.
> > >
> > > My advice..  Wait til the vapor materializes.
> > >
> > >
>
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