From: McCallum, Robert (robert.mccallum@thus.net)
Date: Tue Feb 01 2005 - 12:56:55 GMT-3
I would like to see any idiot configure our MPLS network ;-)
Robert McCallum 
CCIE #8757 R&S
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tayo Fashina [mailto:Tayo.Fashina@bedscc.gov.uk] 
> Sent: 01 February 2005 15:42
> To: Roy Dempsey; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Any truth in this?
> 
> 
> Look at it this way, Cisco just released the CCVP (Cisco cert Voice
> Pro.) cert.  Is that getting any easier? You take a look at 
> what you have to learn to get that cert, then you'll get that 
> there is not end to learning. And if this ever happens, 
> you'll end up working for Cisco as a TAC, because someone 
> would have to support these "idiots".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Dempsey [mailto:roy.dempsey@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 01 February 2005 15:11
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Slightly OT: Any truth in this?
> 
> 
> Came across this article, don't know anything about the 
> source. However, as someone who's been studying for this for 
> a long time, I hope its not accurate.
> 
> Quote :
> 
> "I was interested to see that RHCE (Red Hat Certified 
> Engineer) was listed in slot 3 of certifications IT 
> professionals want to get.
> 
> CCIE ( Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert) is at the top, 
> which I think shows tremendous short-sightedness. Folks, 
> networking, routing and firewalls are still "hot" skills, but 
> that's not going to last. All this stuff is going to be 
> packaged up into teeny little hardware bundles that any idiot 
> can configure - in fact, it is close to that point now and 
> really is already for the home user. Yes, corporate networks 
> demand a bit more, but not all that much more. In a few more 
> years, you won't need any high-cost certified type to control 
> even a fairly complex network.
> 
> But OS support and administration has longer lasting legs. 
> Any random idiot can't necessarily install and configure a 
> server or maybe even a desktop PC if it is part of a larger 
> network. Not yet, anyway - though zero brain configuration of 
> desktops is often possible, servers are a long way from that. 
> Will it stay that way forever? Of course not - that's one 
> reason I'm glad to be getting close to retirement age: 
> servers are already starting to become appliances, and the 
> trend will continue, requiring less and less knowledge and 
> intelligence at the point of use. If I were in my twenties or 
> thirties, I would have to be thinking realistically that the 
> market for my skills may be slowly drying up. We old geezers 
> and young whippersnappers alike can count on at least another 
> decade of being needed, but my crystal ball gets cloudy after that. "
> 
> Link (watch the wrap):
> 
> http://www.webpronews.com/it/itmanagement/wpn-18-20050131Linux
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ionGainingGroundbutCiscoStillonTop.html
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