Re: BGP Neighbors for IPv6

From: Bob Sinclair (bsinclair@netmasterclass.net)
Date: Wed Feb 16 2005 - 23:40:37 GMT-3


Jongsoo,

The only problem I have with that document is that it does not appear to
describe the actual behavior of the IOS as I have observed it. Please see
my earlier post, which showed good peers between routers using link-local
address, update-source and no route-map. Please let me know what I am
missing.

Bob Sinclair
CCIE #10427, CCSI 30427, CISSP
www.netmasterclass.net

----- Original Message -----
From: <Jongsoo.Kim@Intelsat.com>
To: <swm@emanon.com>; <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; <bsinclair@netmasterclass.net>;
<Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:32 PM
Subject: RE: BGP Neighbors for IPv6

> For IPv6 BGP peering using link local address, I believe the answer is
> update-source AND( not or) route-map changing next-hop address to global
> unicast. Both are required.
> Update-source will tell BGP process to send link-local address out of
> which
> interfaces as multiple interface can have the same link-local address.
> And route-map changing next-hop address to global unicast will solve
> next-hop resolution problem of iBGP peers.
>
> Here is the summary of cisco web site
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios123/123cgcr/ipv6
> _c/sa_bgpv6.htm#wp1037072
>
> "Configuring IPv6 multiprotocol BGP between two IPv6 routers (peers) using
> link-local addresses requires that the interface for the neighbor be
> identified by using the update-source router configuration command and
> that
> a route map be configured to set an IPv6 global next hop."
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Jongsoo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February, 2005 7:47 PM
> To: Kim, Jongsoo; ccie2be@nyc.rr.com; bsinclair@netmasterclass.net;
> Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>
>
> So update-source may be an answer, or perhaps next-hop-self?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Jongsoo.Kim@Intelsat.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:19 PM
> To: ccie2be@nyc.rr.com; bsinclair@netmasterclass.net;
> Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>
> I think a route-map changing next-hop address to global unicast is
> necessary
> if link-local address is used for BGP peering.
> Otherwise, other BGP peers not part of link-local segment has no way to
> resolve link-local next-hop address for BGP route.
> A router can have identical link-local address for multiple interface,
> which
> is one of reasons why update source is necessary.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Jongsoo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February, 2005 4:54 PM
> To: Bob Sinclair; Sean C; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>
>
> Hmmm, interesting.
>
> So, why do you think the VoD lesson on ipv6 bgp makes a point of using a
> route-map to set the next hop address to
>
> an ipv6 global unicast address if it's not required?
>
> Is that a best practice for some reason?
>
> Thanks, Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Sinclair" <bsinclair@netmasterclass.net>
> To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Sean C" <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Since the router always prompts for an outgoing interface when the
>> destination is link-local, it would make sense that it needs more
>> "direction" in order use the link-local address. I was able to get BGP
>> peers to come up using the configuration below. It peers to the far
>> link-local address and uses the outgoing interface in the update-source
>> command:
>>
>> On R2:
>>
>> router bgp 24
>> no synchronization
>> bgp log-neighbor-changes
>> neighbor FE80::204:C1FF:FE8E:C40 remote-as 24
>> neighbor FE80::204:C1FF:FE8E:C40 update-source FastEthernet0/0
>> no auto-summary
>> !
>> address-family ipv4 multicast
>> no auto-summary
>> no synchronization
>> exit-address-family
>> !
>> address-family ipv6
>> neighbor FE80::204:C1FF:FE8E:C40 activate
>> exit-address-family
>>
>> On R4:
>>
>> router bgp 24
>> no synchronization
>> bgp log-neighbor-changes
>> neighbor FE80::2D0:58FF:FE95:C8E1 remote-as 24
>> neighbor FE80::2D0:58FF:FE95:C8E1 update-source FastEthernet0/0
>> no auto-summary
>> !
>> address-family ipv4 multicast
>> no auto-summary
>> no synchronization
>> exit-address-family
>> !
>> address-family ipv6
>> neighbor FE80::2D0:58FF:FE95:C8E1 activate
>> exit-address-family
>>
>> Result:
>>
>> R4#sh bgp ipv6 summary
>> BGP router identifier 172.16.104.1, local AS number 24
>> BGP table version is 1, main routing table version 1
>>
>> Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down
>> State/PfxRcd
>> FE80::2D0:58FF:FE95:C8E1
>> 4 24 10 10 1 0 0 00:06:20
> 0
>> R4#
>>
>> Note good peer!!
>>
>> Bob Sinclair
>> CCIE #10427, CCSI 30427, CISSP
>> www.netmasterclass.net
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
>> To: "Bob Sinclair" <bsinclair@netmasterclass.net>; "Sean C"
>> <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>>
>>
>> > There's a VoD on Cisco's PEC site that talked about this.
>> >
>> > I watched it yesterday.
>> >
>> > In the example they used, if a link-local address was used in the
> neighbor
>> > <ipv6 -LL-addr> remote command, 2 other things were also required:
>> >
>> > 1) the neighbor <ipv6 LL-addr> source-update command and
>> >
>> > 2) a route-map that sets the next hop to the ipv6 unicast address for
> that
>> > neighbor.
>> >
>> > I'm not able to try that at the moment, but would you agree?
>> >
>> > Tim
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bob Sinclair" <bsinclair@netmasterclass.net>
>> > To: "Sean C" <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:52 PM
>> > Subject: Re: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Sean,
>> >>
>> >> A certain gentleman of our mutual acquaintance assures me that either
> the
>> >> routable or link-local address could be used, if the neighbor is
> directly
>> >> connected. If you do use the link-local, however, you will need to
>> >> use
>> >> update-source. Give it a shot.
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >>
>> >> Bob Sinclair
>> >> CCIE #10427, CCSI 30427, CISSP
>> >> www.netmasterclass.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Sean C" <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>
>> >> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:24 PM
>> >> Subject: BGP Neighbors for IPv6
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a question but it's not from any particular vendor's practice
>> > test.
>> >> > If
>> >> > I'm given a hub-and-spoke multipoint frame topology, and on the hub
> and
>> >> > spokes
>> >> > I place both IPv6 addresses and IPv6 link-local addresses with the
>> >> > appropriate
>> >> > frame maps for the neighbors, if I configure BGP over the topology:
>> >> > 1-do I need to apply the IPv6 address or the link-local address on
> the
>> >> > neighbor statements under the BGP process and address-family?
>> >> > 2-is there a difference if the neighbors are iBGP vs. eBGP?
>> >> > 3-can I use either address? Or, perhaps if using the link-local
>> >> > address
>> > I
>> >> > need to update-source?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm trying to keep this a simple question (if possible). Hope this
>> > makes
>> >> > sense, and thanks in advance.
>> >> > Sean
>> >> >
>> >> >
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