From: Joe Rinehart (jjrinehart@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 07 2005 - 00:26:45 GMT-3
For me, I took the lab five times and found that a lab workbook was
essential. It solidifies important concepts on so many levels---you have to
be able to understand both the technologies as well as the nuances of
implementing them. There are lots of workbooks out there, I found that the
NetMaster book was the best, it was challenging and the online answer key
along with the ability to look up configuration data in real time was a key
to passing.
Without hours of challenging hands on labs it's very difficult to pass the
lasb....
Joe Rinehart
CCIE #14256
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dillon Yang" <gzdillon@hotmail.com>
To: "Felipe Stutz" <felipestutz@yahoo.com.br>
Cc: "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE R&S - certified at 1st attempt
> Hi, Felipe:
> Thanks for your experience.
> I also spent about one year on studying from CCNA to CCIE. Though I
worked 10 hours per day on lab, I'v failed twice. I think I made a mistake
that I focused on CCNP's materials about 4 months for a solid base, its a
long time when I had obtained few progresses. These books are not systemic
and have a lot of repeated ambiguous concepts. Then I spent 3 months on
CDDOC that is not systemic again, in which I even could not find the
definiens of "fancy queueing" that is the keyword in the blueprint. The same
concept is repeated in IOS12.2, in IOS12.3 or in document of 3550, I can not
go through the all concepts systemically, even its command reference is not
so completely useful. You are right, the book "Routing TCP/IP V1&V2" and
"CCIE Practical Studies V1&V2" are perfect that crown all over the CCNP
books. So it would has been a different situation, if I had spent the wasted
7 months on the Cisco Press books.
> Now I'm confused whether is it necessary to devote myself to a
workbook.
> Any advice?
>
> dillon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Felipe Stutz" <felipestutz@yahoo.com.br>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:08 AM
> Subject: Fwd: CCIE R&S - certified at 1st attempt
>
>
> > As I've received emails asking about my study method, I'm sending an
additional message to you all, and I expect to answer most of the questions
I received (if some of your questions are not answered, please send them to
me again).
> >
> > I know it will sound strange for some of you, but my number one rule has
been: "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all
these things shall be added unto you." Matthew 6:33. And it really works!
> >
> > I studied for almost one year, but some months before getting into CCIE
track I certified as CCNP. At the beginning I basically used two books for
theory: I and II (however only BGP is studied in depth on these books).
After this I started the hands-on study. Firstly I worked on Cisco Labgear
labs and then I used IE workbooks.
> > Most of the time I didn't go into technologies details, and my aim was
to have a solid understanding of the main concepts.
> > I just scheduled my exam when I was sure that I understood the main
concepts and could configure them quickly. My idea was that the available
Cisco documentation could help me during the exam with the more specific
topics, and it really worked on this way during my exam.
> > When I was close to the exam date, two weeks before, I spent most of my
study time at CCD, and went through all the documents availble there. I
didn't do any lab during this period and I only worked on topics that were
not 100% clear to me.
> > Finally the day before the lab I just tried to relax. A CCIE friend
instructed me to make a lab on this last day but I prefered to spend some
time playing some games and having a pleasure night : ) Anyway it was
difficult to sleep!
> > This was my method. I know it is very personal but I'll be glad if you
can take any advantage of it.
> >
> > On the lab I tried not to waste time reading question, I started with
configuration and the problems I could not resolve quickly I left to the end
of the day. I worked with a check list for every topic, and those that I
configured but was not confident I worked on them again at the end of the
day too.
> >
> > Well, that's all by now and I hope it helps.
> >
> > Cheers, Felipe Stutz - CCIE #14449
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Felipe Stutz <felipestutz@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
> > Data: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:12:12 -0300 (ART)
> > De: Felipe Stutz <felipestutz@yahoo.com.br>
> > Assunto: CCIE R&S - certified at 1st attempt
> > Para: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >
> > I joined this group two weeks ago and didn't have
> > opportunity to learn with you. But as I know that
> > this kind of news motivates a lot, I'm sharing it with
> > you.
> > Yes! It is possible to pass the lab at the first time
> > and I did it yesterday.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Felipe Stutz
> > CCIE #14449
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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