From: Leigh Harrison (ccileigh@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 15:48:12 GMT-3
Couldn't agree more chaps.
We're in the process of ivf. We had our pregnancy test last Thursday
and it was a positive. We had that in he morning and sat in a waiting
room waiting for the result. After that stress, sitting in the lab on
Monday didn't even come close.
I swear, I have the biggest smile on my face. Last week in October I
turned 25, the week after we find out the girlfriend is pregnant, the
week after I pass my CCIE, the week after, I'm getting spare time
again. Life is sweet !!
Brian wrote:
> Good point Dennis,
>
> It gets very easy to lose perspective and usually to regain it it
> takes a drastic or catastrophic event. Life is so quick and while it
> is good to have goals, faimily is always priority especially your
> kids. One day you wake up and they are going off to college or
> getting married. Each moment with them counts more than anything,
> cause none of us are promised tomorrow. And when I get ready to take
> that trip, the last thing I will be concerned with is my CCIE status.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Hartmann"
> <dhartma5@optonline.net>
> To: "'Guyler, Rik'" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:46 PM
> Subject: KIDS
>
>
>> I have a 10 month old baby (Johnny) and boy who's almost 4 years old
>> (Dennis). I feel your pain, but I'd give up a CCIE for time with
>> them ANY
>> DAY!!!! Prioritize your life and live by those priorities. Your
>> kids don't
>> give a RATS ASS about your certifications! If it takes me 8 attempts
>> and I
>> don't have to slight my family.... SO BE IT! :-)
>>
>> There's more important things than this CCIE medal of honor.
>>
>> That which does not kill me only makes me stronger -Nietzsche
>>
>> I'm feeling philosophical tonight....
>>
>> -Dennis Hartmann
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Guyler, Rik
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:31 AM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>
>> They do become more self-entertained the older they get but they also
>> get
>> much more expensive! Ohh...I also don't have to worry about my 2-yr old
>> smoking, drinking, skipping school or anything else (he doesn't do these
>> things yet) I would frown upon. The worst thing she does is make a
>> mess on
>> the floor with her toys or jump on the couch. ;-)
>>
>> The trick is to bribe (intimidate) the 15-yr old to help take care of
>> the
>> 2-yr old. Now THAT'S a challenge!
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 AM
>> To: 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>
>> With mine, it's more of the constant need to be held, changed, fed or
>> some
>> other variety of "direct connection". :) When they get older I'm sure
>> they'll be at least a LITTLE self-entertaining. But I have a hard time
>> putting off studying for several years till that happens. So for
>> now, it's
>> just waiting until after 9pm.
>>
>> But yup, it's a challenge! 15 and 2? There's an interesting
>> combination!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Guyler, Rik
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:41 AM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>
>> Yeah...me too. Scott Morris can attest to this as well, eh Scott? ;-)
>>
>> It's tough to study for the lab when your little one is climbing up
>> your leg
>> to get a chance to bang on the keyboard with you...or the teenager
>> wants to
>> play a game of Battlefield2 with you. I have a 15-yr old and a 2-yr
>> old...somebody help me! ;-)
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: Michael Brooks [mailto:michaeljbrooks@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:45 PM
>> To: Guyler, Rik
>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: It is possible!
>>
>>
>> Congrats !
>>
>> I am trying to do both (parent & lab) at the same time. Now thats a
>> challenge.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 11/8/05, Guyler, Rik <rguyler@shp-dayton.org
>> <mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org> > wrote:
>>
>> You thought the lab was hard...wait till you have to be a parent! ;-)
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edwards, Andrew M [mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com
>> <mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com> ]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:13 PM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: It is possible!
>>
>> All I can say is...
>>
>> God answered my prayers. I passed in SJ yesterday.
>>
>> Yes, there is more to it than that, but I must give credit where
>> credit is
>> due. A good combination of experience, effort, knowledge and most
>> importantly prayer go a long way towards having clarity and success
>> during
>> the exam.
>>
>>
>> Now, for those of you new to GS I would like to share my story. One
>> day I
>> realized it was time to prove to myself I could pass the CCIE R&S exam.
>> After passing the written on my second attempt I too started to study
>> for
>> the lab. I quickly found myself without any colleagues to discuss these
>> crazy issues with at any level of depth required for the CCIE lab.
>> So, I
>> got on GS and realized how deep things really would go.
>> Honestly, my first impression was that these GS people were crazy for
>> arguing about Tc shaping intervals and how many bits burst in excess;
>> absolute timers versus idle timers for lock n key, and all that other
>> nitty
>> gritty nerd knob stuff. Initially I thought people on GS that talked
>> about
>> these things in such detail really needed a life.
>>
>> Little did I know that I would soon be joining them...
>>
>> And so the story goes, I started to post on GS and discover exactly
>> what I
>> didn't know; or at least what I thought I knew was wrong. And
>> slowly, over
>> time, the facts got straight as did my technical experience and
>> exposure. I
>>
>> too started grinding over Tc intervals, burst patterns, NBAR protocol
>> matching, timer adjustments, etc. And then, one day I realized I was
>> one of
>> those people who needed a life. 8)
>>
>> Strangely, over the past 2 years, this list has become my second
>> family full
>>
>> of personalities and people I really look forward to meeting. Its
>> what I
>> imagine a fraternity would have been like had I joined one. And, oddly
>> enough, I feel like I just got through with a self inflicted hazing that
>> I'll never forget.
>>
>> So now, after having spend the better part of 2.5 years and 5 lab
>> attempts I
>> have proven to myself the following:
>>
>> 1. The CCIE R&S exam is passable
>> 2. Knowledge is required, but sometimes its not enough during the exam.
>> This is where determination comes in (e.g. try and try again).
>> 3. And probably most important: Do ONLY what you are asked to do
>> and make
>> sure things work EXACTLY the way you are asked.
>>
>> And in closing, I want to thank the Scotts & Brians for pulling away my
>> knowledge blanket and really getting me to learn something. And Tim
>> (ccie2be = cciewhois). I remember last year Tim and I would futs over
>> IPv6 and why most V6 tunnels don't run IGPs and other stuff as we
>> freaked
>> out about this addition to the lab - oh those unfounded fears!
>> And Chris Lewis for helping de-mystify QOS. Excellent stuff coming from
>> Chris on the QoS front people! Not necessarily new material, but
>> sometimes
>> hearing it the 8th time a different way makes things sink in...
>>
>> I would also like to thank the proctors Tom and Tuong in SJ. Thanks for
>> your guidance and patience for people like me who make this exam much
>> harder
>>
>> than it was probably meant to be. And, Tom, I do hope I see you
>> again but
>> this time I'll guy you lunch - no voucher required. 8)
>>
>> And finally, the guys I really want to thank are Marvin, Brad, and Bill
>> Lejewski at www.ccbootcamp.com <http://www.ccbootcamp.com> . Yes, Bill
>> (shows how dated I am).
>> These guys have really watched me struggle. They knew I had
>> knowledge, but
>> just failed to convert during the actual exam. They were always
>> there to
>> help with anything I needed and they never gave up on me.
>> Thanks guys. And now I'll take that beer Brad!
>>
>> So, I'm sure you will all agree, its time to get reacquainted with my
>> estranged friends, family, and ever patient wife. She's 6 months
>> pregnant
>> and I've got a lot of painting and baby-proofing to do. 8)
>>
>> Thanks again GS! I hope to see you guys soon!
>>
>> Andy Edwards
>> CCIE #15334
>>
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