From: ccieim@comcast.net
Date: Sat Mar 18 2006 - 19:54:36 GMT-3
Having MBA is always a better idea compare with CCIE if you intend to be in management. I'm working for a IT outsource company, all/most of upper management, I mean upper not team management, require MBA. They do not care about CCIE since upper managment deal with $ and stategic and way that the BU and company are heading not deal with bit/byte. If you care about to be a team lead or technical team management, then CCIE will help but not upper management.
My 2 cents.Don
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From: "Fred Watson" <watsonf@verizon.net>
> Interesting. I went through hell getting my CCIE, and the MBA is HARDER than
> that? I wonder what newly minted MBAs are making these days? Sounds like
> pointy-haired boss territory to me.
>
> Prior to getting my CCIE I was offered a CIO position. I declined because I
> like the technology too much and the political too little. Personally I find
> it difficult to balance management and technical. The techie magnet for me
> is stronger, so if you don't force a balance one side suffers.
>
> But these things change over time. If I were to do the CIO thing I think my
> CCIE would lapse because I'd be consumed with "other" stuff. Maybe others
> can keep that balance, but for me it would be very difficult.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Lee
> Gillespie
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:59 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CIO and CCIE
>
> I think the MBA easily trumps the CCIE. A MBA is a lot
> more prestigious and harder to get then the CCIE. Most
> CIO's I know end up letting their CCIE expire, since
> it really doesnt mean anything to them anymore.
>
> --- Joe Rinehart wrote:
>
> > I have noticed a significant preponderance with
> > consulting in a CIO role...
> > One of my former customers was a large company in
> > which I got to interact
> > with the CIO and last year I had several executive
> > interactions that made me
> > start to think about this...all of those folks had
> > done consulting...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Lee [mailto:a07146@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:31 AM
> > To: Babylon By The Bay; Joe Rinehart
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CIO and CCIE
> >
> > MBA is a MUST if you want to undestand how top
> > management people talk in $ & #.
> >
> > GMAT is not difficult compare to CCIE Lab. So having
> > both definitely will get you CIO position soon or
> > later. Even better, if you have your own consulting
> > firm.
> >
> > Dave,
> > Network Engineer
> > http://www.ccie2be.com
> >
> >
> > --- Babylon By The Bay
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I tend to agree!!!
> > >
> > > I'm looking at doing the same myself. As I'm now
> > > pushing 40 there seems to
> > > be a yearning within me to make the next big step
> > > into the upper echelon of
> > > the food chain. The only real way to do this
> > within
> > > the global 1000 is to
> > > have a solid B-School to back it up with.
> > >
> > > I'm considering: London Business School (LBS) and
> > > INSEAD, but we'll see as
> > > I'm still in prep mode for GMAT.
> > >
> > > I've been following some MBA bloggers and there's
> > a
> > > wealth of information
> > > there. From daily life to classes and getting your
> > > foot in the door. CHECK
> > > IT OUT...
> > >
> > > mbaleague.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > Good luck...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Rinehart"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:59 AM
> > > Subject: CIO and CCIE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Weird off topic question but wanted group input.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Definitely value the CCIE after clawing my way
> > to
> > > it in 2004 (deep in my
> > > > recert studies at the moment in fact) and love
> > the
> > > technical piece of
> > > > that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Having scaled that mountain I am now working on
> > an
> > > MBA with a career goal
> > > > of
> > > > becoming a CIO.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My personal opinion is that having both the
> > > business (MBA) and technical
> > > > (CCIE) background is a unique and killer
> > > combination for a role like that.
> > > > What are YOUR thoughts? Benefit, drawback, or
> > > neither?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe Rinehart, Consulting Systems Engineer
> > > >
> > > > CCNP, CCDP, CCIE #14256
> > > >
> > > > World Wide Technology, Inc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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