From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Dec 18 2006 - 19:48:47 ART
They may not be able to take it and pass it on the
fly, but obviously they had what it takes to pass the
lab then.
I've been following the CCIE LAb for several years now
(1999 or so) and while the lab seems more difficult
now in terms of tasks, there were more technologies
then, and let's face it some people who pass the lab
today may not have actually had to cable a rack or set
up a Terminal Server etc. Not that these tasks are
impossible, but they did produce a certain amount of
pressure in a lab candidate.
One thing the proctors commented on the last time I
was at RTP was that very very candidates used a lot of
diagnostic commands. Basically just configure tasks
they remembered and it was sad since many think their
config is correct and don't verify.
Break the labs for some of these folks and they might
not be able to Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Hmmm...
Also recall if the only thing you had to study going
into the lab was Giles, you were probably in for some
pain.
If you had notes from classes, they costed money.
If you had a lab partner, they may or may not be as
bright or as lucky as you...
Lots of things could have happened then and now to
make a given exam more difficult to a given candidate.
Let's not frown on the old guard for making the cert
famous for being difficult.
The lab will continue to evolve, that's part of the
game.
Live and Learn.
--- Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> That's kind of a pompous assumption, don'tchya
> think???
>
> I'm pretty well banking on the fact that the vast
> majority of people here
> today couldn't do the lab that I had 7 years ago.
> Pick even just half of
> the technologies tested... Does that mean it was
> harder then?
>
> Or perhaps just different.
>
> Get over it. Same stuff, different day, no matter
> how you slice it, the
> basics are still the same.
>
> ;)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenza@kenza.nl [mailto:sales@kenza.nl]
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:39 AM
> To: Michael Kotchkoski; Gabriel Nunes; Plank, Jason
> Cc: Mike O; jenseike@start.no; swm@emanon.com;
> joe1265@hotmail.com;
> groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>
> for those whom already have ccie for 4 or more
> years, i don't think they can
> do the ccie lab again, its much harder/difficult
> now...im a right ??
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Kotchkoski"
> <michaelk2000@hotmail.com>
> To: "Gabriel Nunes" <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>;
> "Plank, Jason"
> <JPlank@concordefs.com>
> Cc: "Mike O" <mikeeo@msn.com>; <jenseike@start.no>;
> <swm@emanon.com>;
> <joe1265@hotmail.com>; <sales@kenza.nl>;
> <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>
>
> > CORRECTION $ 250 bucks....
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gabriel Nunes" <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>
> > To: "Plank, Jason" <JPlank@concordefs.com>
> > Cc: "Mike O" <mikeeo@msn.com>;
> <jenseike@start.no>; <swm@emanon.com>;
> > <joe1265@hotmail.com>; <sales@kenza.nl>;
> <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
> >
> >
> >> I`d like to say Congratulations for who already
> got your CCIE number and
> >> didn`t face any issues with the exam!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/12/06, Plank, Jason <JPlank@concordefs.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If you are so convinced that you had the
> correct answers then use a
> > credit
> >> > card and request a re-read. Isn't it only 200
> bucks?
> >> >
> >> > YOU CAN DO EEEEEIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!
> >> >
> >> > -------------------
> >> > Jason Plank, CCIE #16560
> >> > Technical Support Architect
> >> > 101 Bellevue Parkway
> >> > Wilmington, DE 19809
> >> > E-mail: JPlank@concordefs.com
> >> > Phone: 302-793-5913
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> > Gabriel Nunes
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:10 PM
> >> > To: Mike O
> >> > Cc: jenseike@start.no; swm@emanon.com;
> joe1265@hotmail.com;
> > sales@kenza.nl
> >> > ;
> >> > groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
> >> >
> >> > Man,
> >> >
> >> > I think is better we stop this message... I`m
> was clear with my
> > points...
> >> >
> >> > That question was a 3 point question and I
> didn`t find out what was
> > wrong
> >> > on
> >> > my Multicast, Security and BGP session where I
> got 0% on all of them.
> >> >
> >> > That was the point. Wrong questions and
> "strange" scores.
> >> >
> >> > Some guys already agreed with me after show my
> solutions... And others
> >> > guys
> >> > took the same lab and did the same thing and
> got a different score...
> >> >
> >> > On BGP there were 3 questions, one of 2 points
> and two of 3 points How
> > can
> >> > someone get 28% of 8 points?? 2 of 8 is 25% and
> 3 of 8 is 37,5%
> >> >
> >> > As I don`t have money to pay the reread I will
> keep studying more and
> > more
> >> > until I pass.
> >> >
> >> > SO LETS STOP THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IT
> WON`T SOLVE ANY PROBLEM.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 12/12/06, Mike O <mikeeo@msn.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I have to agree some of the questions are a
> little crazy and most
> > likely
> >> > > will be removed from future tests, but should
> one question fail you?
> > no
> >> > > you
> >> > > should be solid in other areas.
> >> > >
> >> > > But then again one 2 point question can make
> or break ya :)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: "Gabriel Nunes"
> <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>
> >> > > >Reply-To: "Gabriel Nunes"
> <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>
> >> > > >To: "Jens Petter" <jenseike@start.no>
> >> > > >CC: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>, "Joe
> Yohannan" <
> >> > joe1265@hotmail.com
> >> > > >,
> >> > > > sales@kenza.nl,
> groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com,
> >> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > > >Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s
> exam ?
> >> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:53:23 -0200
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Man, I know of this... But I have proves
> that they do mistakes
> >> > > sometimes...
> >> > > >I told before in this flow...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I already asked for a reread and my score
> has growth (a lot)
> >> > > >There is question asking to store erros in
> the NVRAM... I opened a
> > TAC
> >> > > and
> >> > > >they said that this is not possible...
> >> > > >We already had a router with ip base IOS...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Those examples above are some of many others
> proving that we are
> >> > injured
> >> > > >sometimes, but I agree that we have to be
> prepared
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