From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Thu Mar 15 2007 - 14:42:58 ART
No worries... I figure I killed too many brain cells back in college, so
I'm all for conserving them now! (smirk)
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Koen Zeilstra [mailto:koenz@mcvax.org] On Behalf Of Koen Zeilstra
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:27 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: 'Marvin Greenlee'; sheherezada@gmail.com; 'Suzan S.';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: LAB exam SP
That make's it a lot easier to remember.
thanks for pointing it out.
Cheers,
Koen
-----------------------
Where there's a will, there's an Inheritance Tax.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Scott Morris wrote:
| There's a number of networks from that list that have been deprecated
| from filtering (e.g. they've been assigned!)...
|
| But You should already know the RFC 1918 ones (included), then others
| should be obvious:
|
| 127/8 Loopbacks
| 169.254/16 Microsoft
| 224/4 Multicast
| 240/4 Research
|
| Then there's the first and last class of each class grouping:
|
| 0/8 and 127/8 (above)
| 128/16 and 191.255/16
| 192.0.0/24 and 223.255.255/24
|
| Then there are some odd ones for testing purposes:
|
| 192.0.2/24
| 198.18/15
|
| All the rest have been otherwise allocated.
|
| So if you just understand the breakdowns there, honestly, about the
| only thing to really memorize (something new anyway) are those two
| testing networks.
|
| Just my thoughts. Yes, it's irritating, but not that bad!
|
|
| Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
| JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
| CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
| IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
| IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
| smorris@ipexpert.com
| http://www.ipexpert.com
|
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
| Of Koen Zeilstra
| Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:55 AM
| To: Marvin Greenlee
| Cc: sheherezada@gmail.com; 'Suzan S.'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
| Subject: RE: LAB exam SP
|
| If we are talking RFC 3330, that is a whole bunch of numbers to memorize!
|
| 0.0.0.0/8
| 10.0.0.0/8
| 14.0.0.0/8
| 24.0.0.0/8
| 39.0.0.0/8
| 127.0.0.0/8
| 128.0.0.0/16
| 169.254.0.0/16
| 172.16.0.0/12
| 191.255.0.0/16
| 192.0.0.0/24
| 192.0.2.0/24
| 192.88.99.0/24
| 192.168.0.0/16
| 198.18.0.0/15
| 223.255.255.0/24
| 224.0.0.0/4
| 240.0.0.0/4
|
| Are you sure there's is no information to be found on the doc CD about
this?
| In my opionion a SP CCIE should know every tiny biy of all the
| techniques and protocols on the blue print but NOT memorize lists like
this.
|
| Cheers,
|
| Koen
|
|
|
| On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Marvin Greenlee wrote:
|
| | In general, it's usually not that they specifically remove command
| | options, or syntax information, but individual IOS versions may vary
| | as far as what they will support.
| |
| | RFCs have always been fair game when they have been relevant to the
track.
| | RFC 1918 and 3330, for example, used to be explicitly listed on the
| | SP blueprint. Most people are familiar with 1918, but 3330 is not
| | as well known. It's definitely one that would be relevant to the track.
| | RFC 2827, for example, is explicitly listed on the security lab
| | blueprint, but could also apply to service provider environments.
| |
| | There are often multiple ways that a task can be achieved.
| | Successfully navigating through a CCIE lab usually requires knowing
| | multiple methods to complete a specific task.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec) Senior Technical
| | Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
| | "When Will You Be an IP Expert?"
| | marvin@ipexpert.com
| | http://www.IPexpert.com
| |
| | -----Original Message-----
| | From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
| | Of sheherezada@gmail.com
| | Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:56 AM
| | To: Suzan S.
| | Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
| | Subject: Re: LAB exam SP
| |
| | Some routers may have help disabled for some command subsets or even
| | some configuration options may be disabled (sorry, can not disclsose
| | examples). One idea is to check the syntax on another router from
| | the lab.
| |
| | And yes, I had one question that specifically referred to a RFC I
| | did not know. There was no mention about this RFC in the doc CD
| | (double checked after I exited the lab), so this was not fair.
| |
| | Another dirty trick is that they may ask things with very shady
| | completion criteria (think of optimization or something), so
| | actually you have no clue except your best practice knowledge. For
| | one of these questions I confirmed my understanding with the proctor
| | twice, got two different answers, and finally ended up with no points.
| |
| | Cheers,
| |
| | Mihai
| | CCIE #16616
| |
| | On 3/1/07, Suzan S. <suzan_ccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
| | > Dears,
| | >
| | > Anyone knows about the lab exam, can we use the help for each
| | > command and use ? to see the following command used.
| | >
| | > Do we have to know each Rfc
| | > number and content to configure the senarios in the lab if the
| | > service requested only through the Rfc number.
| | >
| | > Thank you
| | >
| | > Regards
| | > Suzan
| | >
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