From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Tue Apr 10 2007 - 09:52:36 ART
Usually the progression is that you pass a lab exam, and at some point you
have to take your recert. Any written will recert you, so you may try
something "new". Then what happens after you pass that written exam is the
idea that "ya know maybe I am good at this side too and should take the lab
to go with it!"
:)
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
cisco efiko
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:25 AM
To: James Russell
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Feeling overwhelmed
Hey,
Try and get a study group together, something light to keep you focused. If
I had this since my 1st try, I would be CCIE by now. You could post
"Expectant Father looking for a study partner" and you'll be shocked at the
response you'll get (hope that you do get a response)! Lol!! Well try and
get a studygroup and make sure it's one that aids you not depress you.
Come to think of it, I had my books at the labour room (to claim my nerves
that is) at the birth of our son!! I'm sure that was a one off (that was
very sad thinking of it now), don't expect my wife to fall for that again.
She wouldn't as I will be CCIE before then, oh I forgot, I may be studying
for the next one after that, then another one? Isn't that the case when you
pass the 1st one, you are tempted for another one. Well keep your
relationship intact because you don't want to leave with HALF!
Efiko.
On 4/10/07, James Russell <osuphd2b@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot everyone. I like hearing other people's stories.
>
> My wife is already aware of the benefits and is OK with my studying
> (well, as much as a pregnant person can be!). She knows I am doing it
> to benefit not just myself, but her and the baby as well.
>
> I know statistically I should not plan on passing the first time.
> Psychologically, I cannot accept that and I plan on succeeding my
> first time out. Call it what you want, but that's how my brain works.
> :)
>
> For some reason, I just get doubts every once in a while. Like, am I
> spending too much time on this? Will getting a CCIE really benefit me
> in my town/business? Can I do it, or am I just wasting time and
> money? The doubts seem to go away quickly, but they do resurface.
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
>
> Thanks for all the encouragement and advice. I'm glad I'm not too
> proud to ask for help from those who have walked the path before me.
> I just hope I am wise enough to heed their advice.
>
> James
>
>
> jslauer@hotmail.com wrote: agree with all below,
>
> get the wife to buy off on this, present her with a list of benefits
> and ensure she know's how much studying you'll do. Give her a study
> schedule and stick too it. My wife was pregnant with our second child
> when I passed the lab, it can be done. Just handle the situation with
> some tact and ensure you are realistic in your study goals. Trying to
> pack too much into a 24-hour day is not a recipe for success.
>
> Josh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris"
> To: "'James Russell'" ;
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:10 PM
> Subject: RE: Feeling overwhelmed
>
> > You definitely do not have an easy time on your hands!
> >
> > The best thing I can tell you to do is to sit down and talk with
> > your wife.
> > She'll eventually get into a "nesting" phase and want to spell out
> > in detail everything going on in your life (I can only compare this
> > to like a personal ISO certification process!). Talk to her ahead
> > about a plan for
> studying
> > and give structure to it.
> >
> > The structure to studying may help you out a lot as well, but having
> > the buy-in from your wife will help to reduce a certain set of
> > stress
> anyway.
> >
> > From a budget standpoint, don't expect to pass the first time. But
> > what
> I
> > would do is to make sure you at least have one good/valid attempt
> > before the baby comes along. If nothing else, you can validate
> > things you do know and separate the fears from reality about what
> > the lab is really like.
> >
> > Then revisit your structure and how your time works in with house,
> > wife, baby, etc.
> >
> > Having kids will certainly rearrange your study time, but not
> necessarily
> > kill it. But in the very beginning, you're going to have strange
> > hours/interruptions by the little one wanting to eat. From a
> > parenting skill standpoint, I can suggest that working that baby
> > into a schedule
> as
> > best as you can from the very beginning will actually make your life
> much
> > easier! My little ones (almost 3 and 2 now) were sleeping through
> > the night by 8-9 weeks old. (Sleep deprivation is used by some
> > cultures as a form of torture you know!)
> >
> > But anyway, still through all of this, managing your expectations of
> study
> > time versus family time is important as well as managing your wife's
> > expectations is equally important. While nobody has done any
> > official study about the number of people who got a divorce/breakup
> > prior to earning their numbers, it certainly is a contributing
> > factor!
> >
> > Best of luck on all fronts there!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development IPexpert Sr. Technical
> > Instructor smorris@ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of James Russell
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:27 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: OT: Feeling overwhelmed
> >
> > This is sort of OT, but I was wondering what everyone does when they
> feel
> > overwhelmed with studying for the lab. I just passed the written on
> > Feb 3rd, and have been studying 30+ hours a week ever since. I'm
> > learning a ton along the way, but sometimes I feel like I have no
> > prayer of learning enough to pass. I am scheduled to take the lab
> > on July 6th, but I may not take it then.
> >
> > How do you deal with the stress of studying, work, family, etc? My
> > wife is pregnant with our first child, we are in the process of
> > buying a house, and I'm trying to pass this lab. I guess I just
> > wonder sometimes if it is worth it or if I should wait a year before
> > attempting it. Thanks for letting
> a
> > newbie vent.
> >
> >
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