From: Usman Ali (usman198@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Apr 16 2007 - 17:21:00 ART
Hello all Gurus ,
I think it is very desperate for the people who are doing CCIE by studying .
i am working on ccie from last 1 year and quit job only for study and my
target to pass CCIE in three attempts ,
if i pass end of this year what will be the market of ccie after 3 years
when there would be more than 50000 CCIE and a few thousands with good
knowledge ,
it is very disappointing position
is it better to go with IBM certification to earn IBM cert you need just
a few configurations and once a redbook study of the technology , i
passed IBM SAN solution desinger examine 3 years before and it is more
easy than even CCNA and have a good market value too .
can cisco make a huge data base of some 100 labs you will get one in
examine or something like this to avoid the fraud .
bye
Usman Ali
Anthony Bonilla wrote:
> On the same note, one of the proctors in RTP was mentioning that they know
> that lab exams are leaking out being that whenever Cisco releases a new
> exam, the passing rate is real low but after two weeks or so, the passing
> rate shoots up to 90% - go figure!
>
> When everyone in the room asked why Cisco does not do anything about it, he
> replied that they can't do anything there because China has no NDA or
> something to that affect. Or better yet, Cisco should offering this exam in
> those countries to begin with but if this continues to go on and Cisco does
> not do anything knowing all this is happening, you always wonder if they
> themselves are involved as well???
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
> On 4/15/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What everyone on this list in a position to hire
>> should do, could do, and ought to do with every single
>> job candidate, CCIE notwithstanding, is set them down
>> in front of some gear and let them show you how and
>> why they are the person for the job...
>>
>> 2-3 hours in front of gear and you know whether you
>> have a keeper or... NOT.
>>
>> Lots of people are passing the lab these past few
>> years...
>>
>> Not all of them are quite qualified to work on a
>> full-fledged network with "issues". I'm sure most of
>> have worked hard and some for some years, but a few
>> squeak by.
>>
>> So... if everyone here and everywhere else maintains
>> good hiring practices, then I suspect that we will not
>> have this problem of people passing the lab and
>> getting digits by any means necessary.
>>
>> Not is they know that the cert alone is not a rubber
>> stamp to a CCIE-Level position.
>>
>> However with a quick romp to the job boards and seeing
>> postings like:
>>
>> CCNA required and CCIE desired... with MCSE or CNE or
>> Unix experience and oh yes, we want the candidate to
>> install MS SQL or MS Exchange or even handle desktop
>> support issues and Symantec AV etc...
>>
>> Hmmm... What is the point...
>>
>> Also be careful to apply to jobs that are of a CCIE
>> caliber as well - once you get the grail.
>>
>> =====================================
>>
>> One more thing, did anyone ever consider that maybe,
>> just maybe, Cisco is the one putting out the "real
>> CCIE Labs" and if they are I suppose the proctors have
>> a lot of fun watching things not quite work for
>> candidates whenever they pass through... Here's a
>> little but not quite a lot...
>>
>> That is kind of sadistic... Especially since they may
>> even have the names of the buyers...
>>
>> Hey - how many people come report back on GS and say
>> they cannot figure out what went wrong...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hah!
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> Close but no cigar...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- CCIEwnaB <cciewnab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> OK smart peeps,
>>>
>>> I have a friend who is currently working on her
>>> CCNP, and keeps giving me a
>>> hard time for not having passed the lab yet (1
>>> failed attempt under my belt)
>>> but I'm still hitting it hard and will be going back
>>> in another 2 moths.
>>>
>>> Anyway, she's convinced that when she finishes her
>>> last NP test she'll just
>>> pay the $1200 to the folks who shall remian nameless
>>> and study the "3 real
>>> CCIE labs" and pass on the first attempt." I agree
>>> with what's been said
>>> here so many times before, that the cert only means
>>> something if you truly
>>> are an expert and have earned it. So let's not get
>>> everyone all wound up.
>>>
>>> That being said, does anyone have a few stories I
>>> can share with her, that
>>> might be helpfull in keeping her on the "HIGH ROAD".
>>> I keep trying to tell
>>> her, she's going to pay $1200 for a couple useless
>>> old files and then what,
>>> go to the proctor on test day and say, hey this
>>> isn't the test I was
>>> expecting you must have made a mistake?
>>>
>>> I'm sure there are other folks here who have fallen
>>> for it, please share
>>> your experiences so my friend will see the light and
>>> not surrender to the
>>> dark side...she knows who she is
>>>
>>>
>>>
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