From: Michael Zuo (mzuo@ixiacom.com)
Date: Mon Apr 23 2007 - 15:29:58 ART
I look at this from a slightly different perspective. I got emails like
that as well and I would be lying if I said I wasn't tempted for just a
second. But ultimately I wanted to prove to myself that I can do it on
my own and I am just as smart as the Brian's (ha ha). If I could pass
this, nothing else would phase me in the networking world :)
Cheating is easy but cheating yourself is (almost:)) impossible...
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Narbik Kocharians
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:00 AM
To: ismail el-shalh
Cc: charles whang; eric_dobyns@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
Man, it is unbelievable, let's NOT talk about these guys, don't you guys
understand that when we talk about them we are advertising for these
idiots?
Unless you are with them?
On 4/20/07, ismail el-shalh <ishelh_mdsa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Whether these labs are fake or real , I advise all the
> candidates to ignore it. Count on yourself in the preparation,
practice
> and
> learn through different vendor workbooks.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am fully trust that when you will get the CCIE No. via
> cheating you will never feel the taste of the fruit and you will end
up
> with no
> respect.
>
>
>
> Ismail
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: charles whang <charleswha@gmail.com>
> To: eric_dobyns@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:00:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
>
> Hi
>
> Eric , What do you say ?, this story is about faker, not NDA
> Important thing is the site is fake site running a few another fake
sites
> also by same faker
>
> Reg
>
>
> On 4/20/07, Eric Dobyns <eric_dobyns@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't risk messing with those guys, legitimate or not. If they
are
> > selling stuff that violates the NDA and you use it, you could get
your
> > CCIE
> > taken away for life.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > charles whang
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:13 PM
> > To: Narbik Kocharians; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
> >
> > Yeah, i also already contacted a few site for my lab before, and
have a
> > ccie mate who cheated from the fake site
> > at least we must warn about the faker for other person who do not
know
> > about
> > the fake site
> >
> >
> > On 4/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > You know what, i think the more we talk about these guys, the more
we
> > are
> > > promoting thier garbge product. But i totally agree with you.
> > >
> > > On 4/19/07, charles whang <charleswha@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 100% agreed with anthony
> > > > The sites are faker sites , i saw the notice about the faker via
> > > > cciecert.net
> > > > also most of Guys knew about this faker
> > > >
> > > > Scott find the below things
> > > > The domain "supposedly" is registered in New York.
> > > > DNS is supplied by a Florida company.
> > > > The IP address is based out of Texas.
> > > > The payment place is a California company.
> > > > As is the IP address for the payment place.
> > > > The "labs" come from China. (where the money goes)
> > > >
> > > > This faker has had many other domain names following the same
"path"
> > of
> > > > registrations and IP's. So nothing new here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/20/07, anthony.sequeira@thomson.com <
> anthony.sequeira@thomson.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It was great for a laugh though - thanks for sharing in that
> > > > > respect....some of my favorite parts:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Q. How " Real ccie Labs " are more important than attending a
> ccie
> > > > > training Boot camp?
> > > > >
> > > > > A. By attending ccie boot camps, candidates waste their time
by
> > > > > practicing mock labs or ccie workbooks. But by preparing and
> > > > practicing
> > > > > Real ccie Labs, candidates are preparing real ccie lab exams."
> > > > >
> > > > > Also - the testimonials are completely fake - note the lack of
a
> > real
> > > > > number:
> > > > > "CCIE # 15x3x (R&S) : I just finished my CCIE LAB and have got
> ccie
> > > > > number.. Your REAL CCIE LABS are lil angels!!! I can't imagine
how
> I
> > > > > could pass my exams without your help. Thank you"
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, where is the Contact Us link???
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally - if you think there are only 3 labs currently in use
by
> > Cisco
> > > > -
> > > > > I have some excellent Real Estate for you here in Florida.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anthony J Sequeira
> > > > > #15626
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > > Brad Ellis
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:33 PM
> > > > > To: Elliott Reyes; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
> > > > >
> > > > > Elliott,
> > > > >
> > > > > The best thing you can do is NOT post the website around,
promote
> > > > them,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > report them to the NDA folks at cisco.
> > > > >
> > > > > -brad
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Elliott Reyes" <elliottreyes@adelphia.net>
> > > > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:00 PM
> > > > > Subject: Real CCIE Labs Website -
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone seen this ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know there's a bunch of thread's on this but damn look at
how
> > much
> > > > > they
> > > > > > charge for this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sound's like a huge ripoff to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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