From: A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail) (ananth.sarma@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 08 2007 - 16:11:21 ART
Well Done James,
Hats off to you for acheiving the coveted cerification in such a very short
period.
You give me real inspiration to work hard on the certification.
I like the statement : "Know thy self". It is the key for anything.
Congrats again.
Regards,
Ananth G Sarma
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A.G. Ananthasubramania Sarma
 Email: ananth.sarma@gmail.com
On 7/8/07, James Russell <osuphd2b@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> This is very true.  I am short on "real world" experience compared to most
> CCIEs.  But like I said in the last email regarding study methodology, it's
> important to know thyself.  That said, I recognize my relative lack of
> experience, and I keep that in mind.  Experience can truly only come with
> time, IMO.  I'm just going to have to keep working hard and gaining
> experience wherever I can.  You can pass the CCIE in a year or whatever, but
> you are not necessarily an "expert".  So I'll just keep busting my ass, and
> maybe some day I will be a true expert.  That's not to say I don't feel
> "worthy" of being a CCIE.  I feel like I earned it just as much as the next
> guy.  I still have plenty to learn about networking.  I plan on getting my
> CCIP and CCIE SP next.
>
> For me, life is a never-ending classroom.  School's never out for summer.
>
> Gustavo Novais <gustavo.novais@novabase.pt> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> Congrats on your achievement. I do not want to seem offensive, please
> face this as a constructive criticism.
>
> My suggestion to you, as of now, is to try to get that hands-on
> experience that you've admitted to not have. Bear in mind, that people
> are going to look at you as a CCIE, thinking that you will be able to
> solve all of their problems, or answer all of their questions. Of course
> that is not true, because no one knows everything, but that's not how
> non-tech people see it. As it is said here lots of times, face your exam
> passing as the beginning of the journey, and be humble, learn with the
> more experienced, and don't think that passing the exam is the hard part
> of being a CCIE.
>
> Good luck
>
> Gustavo Novais
> #15622
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary Duncanson
> Sent: domingo, 8 de Julho de 2007 17:40
> To: James Russell
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE #18397; Cliffs notes included
>
> James,
>
> Good job. Nice and methodical and one year of unremitting hard work.  It
> can
> be done.
>
> Regards
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Russell"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:25 PM
> Subject: CCIE #18397; Cliffs notes included
>
>
> > Ultra-short version:  Passed R&S on 1st try at RTP.  Woot!
> >
> > Short version:  Passed R&S on 1st try at RTP.  Thanks to (in no
> particular
> > order) my pregnant wife for being so understanding, The Brians, Scott
> > Morris, Narbik, those of you who took time to answer my unicast
> questions,
> > and everyone who posts on GS.
> >
> > Long version:  Wow, I'm still shaking!  I started my journey in June
> of
> > last year.  I had no Cisco experience at all, but I started the CCNA.
> Got
> > that on July 19th.  Got hired as a network engineer and got my CCNP in
>
> > October.  Started on the written in Jan of this year and passed on Feb
>
> > 3rd.  Then I started on the lab.  I used a well-known vendor's
> workbook,
> > and the following books:
> >
> > Routing TCP/IP Vols I and II
> > Internet Routing Architectures
> > Wendell Odom's QoS Exam Cert Guide
> > BCMSN Exam Cert Guide
> > The DocCD (duh!)
> >
> > My study routine usually consisted of renting 11 hours of rack time
> every
> > Saturday, and doing one of the labs 2 times.  I would then spend the
> next
> > week reviewing the lab and configuring any confusing parts on my
> mini-lab
> > at work.  As the weeks progressed, I would take some labs and do them
> all
> > in Windows notepad.  No tabs or question marks to help.  I also read
> the
> > complete command references several times for  all routing protocols,
> > QoS, frame relay, IP applications, IP addressing, switching, etc etc.
> > Anything I couldn't understand, I labbed it up until I did understand
> it.
> >
> > Ok, now for the lab itself.  While doing the lab, and after completing
> it,
> > I was kind of confused about the whole thing.  Either the test was
> pretty
> > straightforward and I had passed, or I was completely missing stuff
> and I
> > failed miserably.  My initial feeling was that it was pretty
> > straightforward.  By lunch, I had read and at least attempted to
> configure
> > every single question on the lab.  There were 3 or 4 that I had to
> skip
> > and come back to, though.  After lunch, I went back and did those,
> which
> > took about an hour.  I checked the whole thing and found a few errors.
>
> > Checked it all again, and found 1 or 2 errors.  Checked it all AGAIN
> and
> > found nothing that looked wrong.  By this time there was about 45
> minutes
> > left in the lab.
> >
> > People say time management is key, and they are right.  In my case, it
> was
> > make sure you slow down and triple-check everything.  In other cases,
> it
> > might be to not spend too much time on 1 problem.  The proctors were
> very
> > nice and helpful.  They even asked me about one of my tattoos!
> >
> > Well, that's it.  I'm going to eat some lunch!
> >
> > James Russell Jr.
> > CCIE #18397
> >
> >
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