From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Dec 03 2007 - 17:13:07 ART
The only thing that i would add to that is to decide on different colours
for different routing protocols and you typically don't want to do that the
very last minute. You need to make the decision on the colours when you are
practicing.
On 12/3/07, Scott Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
>
> I personally just use dry-erase markers (different colors for iBGP an
> eBGP)
> to connect the devices. For that matter I guess I could use permanent
> markers to do the same and then never have to bother with it again...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Salau, Yemi
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:26 AM
> To: sheherezada@gmail.com; Scott Morris
> Cc: keith tokash; Carlos Trujillo Jimenez; cciefun@gmail.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Best way to draw own Diagram....
>
> I agree with you, I've raised this up with a vendor before. Using clouds
> for BGP relationships makes no technical sense!
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Yemi Salau
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> sheherezada@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:15 AM
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: keith tokash; Carlos Trujillo Jimenez; cciefun@gmail.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Best way to draw own Diagram....
>
> Precisely. You may even find out that you do not need to re-diagram
> everything. In my SP exam, I re-drew only the BGP (with details about
> communities and path manipulation) and the VPNs.
>
> BTW, to me it seems very unfortunate the way that workbooks present
> BGP in diagrams. Why don't you guys use lines instead of clouds for
> BGP? BGP is about neighbor policy after all. Personally, I find more
> meaningful to draw with different color lines for IBGP (e.g. blue),
> EBGP (green) and vpnv4 (red) and then add arrows with explanations for
> policy details.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mihai Dumitru
> CCIE2 #16616
>
> On Dec 2, 2007 7:53 PM, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > You should do whatever is necessary to keep in line with your "normal"
> > method of doing a lab! As an example, I tend to be a very visual
> person, so
> > my diagrams may be more detailed than yours. Not to say either one is
> > better, but it just keeps in line with how my brain works, and
> everyone
> > should do the same!
> >
> > I tend to focus on Layer3 (and up) stuff to remind myself of what's
> running
> > so that I don't forget when later tasks make changes. Other people I
> know
> > will draw full L2 diagrams to remind themselves of the path things
> take
> > physically.
> >
> > Whatever makes sense to you, that's what you do! Play around with
> some
> > practice labs and try different diagramming methods. See which one
> works
> > best in your speed and/or lack of things missed.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > keith tokash
> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:42 PM
> > To: Carlos Trujillo Jimenez; cciefun@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Best way to draw own Diagram....
> >
> > I've been wondering about this as well. Specifically how much
> diagramming
> > should one do? Obviously we won't have time to sit and diagram every
> > scenario (one for BGP, one for OSPF, etc.), so is a good strategy to
> redraw
> > the L3 once and use different colors for protocols? And is it worth
> it to
> > redraw the IPs?
> >
> > With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy
> and
> > with science.
> > --Carl Sagan
> >
> > > From: nergal888@hotmail.com
> > > To: cciefun@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: Best way to draw own Diagram....
> > > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:04:43 +0000
> > >
> > > You CANT draw in the diagrams cisco provides you, instead you must
> > > draw in a big paper they give you, and they give you physical as
> well
> > > as topological layer 2 and layer 3 diagrama, but the better is to
> draw
> > your own diagram.
> > >
> > > Hope Im not violating any stuff about confidentiality jeje
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "ccie ccie" <cciefun@gmail.com>
> > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2007 13:56:11.0434 (UTC)
> > > >FILETIME=[189388A0:01C834EB]
> > > >
> > > >Hi Techcy,
> > > >
> > > > What best way do you guys suggest to draw the own diagram. Do
> guys
> > > >create own your diagram as Physical, L2, L3 etc or just add things
> in
> > > >given diagram. If this is answered before i will do my search in GS
> > > >more extensively.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Mike
> > > >
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