Re: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008

From: Dane Newman (dane.newman@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Mar 16 2008 - 01:58:02 ART


Woah

Thanks for clearing that up....When i have a kid and he turns 13 I will have
him telling all his friends "I want to be a CCIE but my daddy won't let me"

Dane

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Sean Gavitt <seangavitt@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OK, Per Cisco's Certification agreement, you have to be 13 or older w/
> Parental consent. You have to be 18 with out consent. This is according
> to
> the Certifications agreement version 10. I believe Version 7-9 was 18,
> but
> not sure about that one.
>
>
> This is straight from the Certifications Version 10 agreement:
>
> "YOU HEREBY REPRESENT TO CISCO THAT YOU: (1) HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD THE
> TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT; AND (2) ARE THIRTEEN (13) YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER
> AND
> ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CISCO IS RELYING UPON SUCH REPRESENTATIONS IN GRANTING
> CERTIFICATION.
>
> FOR USE BY CERTIFICATION CANDIDATES NOT DELIVERING THIS AGREEMENT
> ELECTRONICALLY. CERTIFICATION CANDIDATES SUBMITTING THIS AGREEMENT VIA
> FACSIMILE TRANSMISSION OR MAIL SHOULD SIGN BELOW AS INDICATED. "
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:33 PM
> To: "'Dane Newman'" <dane.newman@gmail.com>; "'Isabella Figarella'"
> <gigi.ccie@gmail.com>
> Cc: "'Scott Morris'" <swm@emanon.com>; "'Luan Nguyen'"
> <luan.m.nguyen@gmail.com>; "'Tony Varriale'" <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com>;
> "'Rik Guyler'" <rik@guyler.net>; "'Cisco certification'"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
>
> > Totally not true.. the valedictorian of my brother's class who got a
> 2400
> > on
> > the sat II and went to Princeton, failed the CCNA ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > I know a lot of kids in the senior class in high school took Cisco
> > CCNA/CCNP
> > and some failed, some passed.
> >
> >
> >
> > At his graduation last year, someone asked me about the CCIE and if I
> was
> > going for it.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Dane Newman [mailto:dane.newman@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:15 PM
> > To: Isabella Figarella
> > Cc: Joseph Brunner; Scott Morris; Luan Nguyen; Tony Varriale; Rik
> Guyler;
> > Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought you had to be 18 because whenever I took a cisco exam it asks
> me
> > if I am over the age of 18 at vue and prometric.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone want to chime in here?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/12/08, Isabella Figarella <gigi.ccie@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure? I remember a couple of 18 year old ccies. One went to
> work
> > for cisco and published a book on the ccie security written. Another
> > worked
> > for or around the netcraftsmen. And there were others. I wonder how
> old
> > they were to take the writen before they passed the lab.
> >
> > On 3/12/08, Dane Newman <dane.newman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cisco exam rules are not like microsoft's where 5 year olds can become
> > MCP's
> > you need to be at least 18 to take a test
> >
> > On 3/12/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Don't underestimate kids. One day I'm going to have kids and yes, my
> kid
> >> will be the youngest certified IE ever.
> >>
> >> Personally, if I had known about CSCO in 1993, I would have had the IE
> by
> >> 1995. I was smart enough, and had the composure to do it then. I would
> >> have
> >> been 16. I certainly had the time.... I can remember reading ALL the
> >> National Geographic's from my Grandfathers garage for like 40 years
> >> several
> >> times through.
> >>
> >> LOL
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Scott Morris
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:09 PM
> >> To: 'Luan Nguyen'; 'Tony Varriale'
> >> Cc: 'Rik Guyler'; 'Cisco certification'
> >> Subject: RE: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
> >>
> >> A networkers referral is a prize thing where if you refer 'x' number of
> >> people you get an American Express gift card.
> >>
> >> I think it's 5 people.
> >>
> >> You can bring kids, but not into the sessions (although SOME sessions
> >> that
> >> may be more entertaining!).
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Luan
> >> Nguyen
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:08 PM
> >> To: Tony Varriale
> >> Cc: Rik Guyler; Cisco certification
> >> Subject: Re: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
> >>
> >> What's a networkers referral?
> >> Do they let you bring kids?
> >> If you are not doing anything specific, then the power session might
> not
> >> be
> >> helpful to you. But say if you are about to roll out a massive GETVPN
> >> deployment, then sitting in the front asking a shot load of questions
> is
> >> priceless :)
> >>
> >> -lmn
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Tony Varriale <
> >> tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Which techtorial did you do?
> >> >
> >> > Anyone want a networkers referral? :)
> >> >
> >> > Tony
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> > Of Rik Guyler
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:57 PM
> >> > To: 'Dane Newman'; 'Joseph Brunner'
> >> > Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> >> > Subject: RE: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
> >> >
> >> > I went last year and if I had paid out of pocket I wouldn't have been
> >> > happy.
> >> > I also did the $795 thing and it wasn't great either. If you're
> after
> >> > a day of trade shows and a huge networking experience then this is
> for
> >> > you but if you think you're going to get a bunch of awesome technical
> >> > info from the lectures then you're likely going to be disappointed.
> >> >
> >> > The parties and entertainment though are second to none and I had a
> >> > chance to meet some of the listers and bigwigs (such as Scott Morris
> >> > and Brude
> >> > Caslow) so it wasn't a complete waste. ;-)
> >> >
> >> > YMMV - Rik
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> > Of Dane Newman
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:41 PM
> >> > To: Joseph Brunner
> >> > Cc: Cisco certification
> >> > Subject: Re: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
> >> >
> >> > Ok damn fine I'm going. Sad thing is I don't have any company to go
> >> > with so if anyone would like a buddy for a day let me know!
> >> >
> >> > Have any of you ever went to the pre Techtorial? are they worth the
> >> > $795 or waste of time?
> >> >
> >> > I hear all there was a CCIE party but they don't do that anymore :(
> >> >
> >> > Dane
> >> > CCIE #19709
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 3/11/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Its tax deductible (so is the next 2 days at Disney). Do 3 days
> >> > > work/
> >> > > 2 days play - then the whole trip is on Uncle Sam.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll see you in Orlando.
> >> > >
> >> > > Oh, yes, its great I read the pdf's every year since 2001. I can't
> >> > > imagine how cool the conference is, and yes, I'll be wearing my
> >> > > One-Star general costume with the router/switch/rtp/sj campaign
> >> > > flags.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -Joe
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> >> > > Of Dane Newman
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:41 AM
> >> > > To: Cisco certification
> >> > > Subject: Cisco Live/Networkers 2008
> >> > >
> >> > > Anyone going to the Florida conference? I really want to go but
> >> > > $1895 ouch!
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it really worth that price if you don't have a company paying
> for
> >> > > you to go?
> >> > >
> >> > > Dane
> >> > >
> >> > >
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