From: Carlos G Mendioroz (tron@huapi.ba.ar)
Date: Sat Apr 19 2008 - 11:27:15 ART
It might be that it is dependent on sw architecture.
I tested this using a 2900. I'll test it again whenever I can get a hold 
of some 35xx.
-Carlos
Carlos Trujillo @ 19/04/2008 11:21 -0300 dixit:
> Carlos.
>  
> Im trying the same config you mention, but it doesnt work for me, any 
> suggestion whats going on?
>  
>  
> [SW1]---------[SW2]---------[SW3]-------[SW4]
>  
> SW1, SW2, SW4 belong to the vtp domain INTERNETWORKEXPERT.
> SW3 belong to the vtp domain NETMASTERCLASS, and its in transparent mode.
>  
> I enable VTP version 2 in SW3, and then I create some vlans in SW1, but 
> those vlans are not propagated to SW4. they are only propagated to SW2. 
> As SW3 is in another vtp domain, It is not propagating the vlans from 
> another vtp domain, While It is in version 2 enabled, and in transparent 
> mode.
> Do your comments apply also to Catalyst 3550 and 3560 switches?
>  
> A solution I Think, that comes my maind to solve to vlan propagation 
> from sw1 and sw2 to sw4 is to make a dot1q tunnel, in sw3 trunk 
> interfaces, encapsulating also vtp messages. I tested It and I can 
> succesfully get vlans propagated from sw2 to sw4 crossing sw3.
>  
> Now when I do this solution, SW3 trunk interfaces becomes vlan access 
> ports of the dot1q tunnel, where sw3 is loosing its trunk connections.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 2008/4/19, Carlos G Mendioroz <tron@huapi.ba.ar <mailto:tron@huapi.ba.ar>>:
> 
>     FTR:
> 
>      Version-Dependent Transparent Mode--In VTP version 1, a VTP
>      transparent switch inspects VTP messages for the domain name and
>      version, and forwards a message only if the version and domain name
>      match. Since only one domain is supported in the Catalyst 5000 series
>      software, VTP version 2 forwards VTP messages in transparent mode,
>      without checking the version.
> 
>     So if the TRANSPARENT switch is in version 1, it only forwards same
>     domain version 1 vtp messages, but if it is in version 2, it forwards
>     vtp messages of any domain/version.
> 
>     -Carlos
> 
>     Luca Hall @ 04/04/2008 20:47 -0300 dixit:
> 
>         yep meant vtp info.
> 
>         if you change the vtp domain of the transparent switch that the
>         vtp info
>         is crossing to a different domain from what it is sent from it
>         wont be
>         forwarded anymore is what I should have said...
> 
>             Why would it stop forwarding the vlans ?
>             May be you meant "forwarding VTP info about vlans" ?
>             -Carlos
> 
>             Luca Hall @ 04/04/2008 20:05 -0300 dixit:
> 
>                 If they all know the same vlans and you change to
>                 whatever vtp mode it
>                 wont change the vlans and they will be forwarded, if you
>                 change the vtp
>                 domain
>                 on the transparent switches they will stop forwarding
>                 the vlans.
> 
> 
> 
>                     So basically is it safe to assume that regardless of
>                     the VTP version on
>                     the 4 switches I can change a single switch or
>                     rather 3 of the from
>                     client/server to transparent thus leaving one as
>                     server and it won't
>                     mess up my VLAN settings?
> 
>                     Thanks
>                     -----Original Message-----
>                     From: Gary Braver
>                     [mailto:gbraver@fastlanenetworks.com
>                     <mailto:gbraver@fastlanenetworks.com>]
>                     Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:51 PM
>                     To: 'Carlos G Mendioroz'; Athaide, Dwayne
>                     Cc: 'groupstudy'
>                     Subject: RE: VTP
> 
>                     I painfully went through this.
> 
>                     Your switch is in client mode.  It has vlans
>                     automatically stored in
>                     the
>                     vlan.dat file (received from the server).
> 
>                     You change the connection to vtp mode transparent.
> 
>                     Transparent mode can have vlans defined in the
>                     config or through the
>                     vlan database.  Since the vlan database exists the
>                     vlans will be loaded
>                     from the vlan.dat file
> 
>                     You reboot and the vlan.dat file is still there.
>                      You can even do a
>                     write erase and the vlan.dat file will still be there.
> 
>                     Wither later revisions of IOS You can delete the
>                     vlan.dat file and
>                     enter
>                     all vlan info in the config directly.  Believe the
>                     vlan info will still
>                     be stored in the vlan.dat file but since all vlan
>                     config is in the main
>                     config you could take the config to a new identical
>                     switch / replace
>                     the
>                     switch without loosing all the vlan info.
> 
> 
>                     -----Original Message-----
>                     From: nobody@groupstudy.com
>                     <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com>
>                     [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
>                     <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com>] On Behalf Of
>                     Carlos G Mendioroz
>                     Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:07 PM
>                     To: Athaide, Dwayne
>                     Cc: groupstudy
>                     Subject: Re: VTP
> 
>                     Dwayne,
>                     inline:
> 
>                     Athaide, Dwayne @ 03/04/2008 10:57 -0300 dixit:
> 
>                         I had asked a similar question pertaining to a
>                         scenario but did not
> 
>                     get
> 
>                         a response so I am going to generalize the
>                         question .
> 
> 
> 
>                         I have 4  switches SW1 (S)-SW2(S)-SW3(T)-SW4(S).
>                          All switches are
>                         trunked and belong in the same VTP domain.
> 
> 
> 
>                         SW1, SW2, SW4 are Server
> 
>                         SW3 is a Transparent switch.
> 
> 
> 
>                         SW1(S)---Trunk-----SW2(S)----Trunk
>                         ------SW3(T)-------Trunk----SW4(S)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                         Now say to start off all switches have VLAN's 1
>                         thru 10.  The switches
>                         are running VTP version 1.  And VTP pruning is
>                         enabled.
> 
> 
> 
>                         1.        Now say I build a new VLAN on SW1.
>                          Will that VLAN be
>                         propagated to Switch SW4.?
> 
> 
> 
>                         My Answer :When I lab this up it did get
>                         propagated and this confused
> 
>                     me
> 
>                         as I was under the impression that Version 1 VTP
>                         on a transparent
> 
>                     switch
> 
>                         will not propagate the VLAN only VTP version 2
>                         would.
> 
>                     AFAIK, main difference between v1 & v2 is token ring
>                     support.
>                     Transparent should enable VTP to pass through, as it
>                     does according to
>                     your lab.
> 
>                         2.       Say I have a Router A connected to
>                         Access port VLAN 10 on SW3
>                         and a routed port on SW2  .  Should Router A be
>                         able to ping Router B
> 
>                     &
> 
>                         vice versa thru the transparent switch?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     RA-(VLAN10)------SW3----------Trunk----------------SW4(Vlan10)----------
> 
>                         ----Routed port(SW2)
> 
> 
> 
>                         I can although when I do a show int trunk on SW4
>                         I show VLAN 10  to be
>                         pruned.
> 
>                     Typo here ? You say "router port on SW2" and draw SW4.
>                     If it is in SW2, prunned at SW4 will have no effect.
>                     Also, prunning stops broadcast only, so if you ping
>                     from the prunned
>                     side, you will lift the bann, so to say .
> 
>                     -Carlos
> 
> 
> 
>                         Thanks
> 
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