From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Tue May 06 2008 - 23:33:54 ART
Q: What did the Senior BGP engineer brag to his friends in the bar?
A: I put more AS'S on the internet than Larry Flynt
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:14 PM
To: Dale Shaw
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: How to Become a CCIE v2
Q: What do you call the guy who Graduated LAST at Medical school?
A: Doctor
-Ryan
P.S. I like the endorsement idea...
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Dale Shaw <dale.shaw@gmail.com> wrote:
> Irrespective of how hard or not the CCIE lab is, I agree with one key
> point that the original poster made:
>
> Just like every other vendor certification, there is no way for a
> prospective employer, or anyone for that matter, to differentiate
> between someone who has years and years of practical experience and
> blitzed the lab first go, and someone with relatively limited
> experience but who brute-forced their way through.
>
> The end result is "CCIE", not "CCIE (passed first go)" or "CCIE
> (passed on the 5th attempt)". In my opinion, despite the practical
> nature of the lab, it is still possible to be a "paper CCIE".
>
> To use the fruit comparison analogy in a different way: comparing
> CCIEs can indeed be like comparing apples and oranges! -- some are
> good, some are bad.
>
> Perhaps Cisco could consider a system like CISSP, whereby you have to
> be endorsed by someone who is already certified, and/or you have to
> meet other pre-requisites, like number of years of relevant work
> experience.
>
> cheers,
> Dale
>
>
>
>
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