From: Ryan (ryan95842@gmail.com)
Date: Tue May 13 2008 - 12:24:58 ART
And how long to you sit there staring at the output trying to
interrupt what it says?
You'd be better off spending your time learning the technologies than
a bunch of aliases that are only going to save you a few seconds over
the course of a day...
My 2 cents
-Ryan
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:49 AM, ccie az <ccieaz@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure if its just me but I disagree in regards to alias
>  commands. I dont use many though just 5 roughly.
>
>  For example c for config t, r for show ip route, p for show ip
>  protocols, s for show ip int br, and b for show ip bgp
>
>  If you think about how many times you use c and r for example alone:
>  typing 6-10 less keys every time saves loads of time over the course
>  of a 8 hour lab, imo.
>
>  And for the sake of putting them into notepad and pasting them into
>  each device i think it worth the effort at the start of the lab.
>  Anyone else agree?
>
>  Az
>
>  2008/5/13 Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello@gmail.com>:
>
>
> > I'm not a big fan of aliases either.  I think that it's all about
>  >  achieving your goal by typing as few keystrokes as possible.  Nail
>  >  down the IOS keyboard shortcuts and regular expressions.
>  >
>  >  How about....... s run | s eigrp - even more efficient!
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Joseph Brunner
>  >  <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>  >  > I don't recommend aliases...
>  >  >
>  >  > I saw (yes just like your post on tcpmag) that the folks who start the lab
>  >  > start a little too fast (understatement)
>  >  >
>  >  > Even before opening her book I saw some Russian chick slam like 50 aliases
>  >  > in the router...
>  >  >
>  >  > I like to say "think about the command you are going type, why are you going
>  >  > to type it, what is the core issue you are looking for information on"
>  >  >
>  >  > For instance;
>  >  >
>  >  > Don't just bang out sien (show ip eigrp neighbors) on a damn alias all
>  >  > day...
>  >  >
>  >  > Why not begin with
>  >  >
>  >  > "show run | b router eigrp"
>  >  >
>  >  > You'll spend 5 seconds fixing a bad eigrp network statement or
>  >  > redistribution issue vs. like 20 minutes figuring out why a route is not at
>  >  > a place it needs to be.
>  >  >
>  >  > I didn't use one damn alias the whole trip to become a man...
>  >  >
>  >  > And I wont on the next three...
>  >  >
>  >  > -Joe
>  >  >
>  >  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>  >  > Scott Morris
>  >  > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:27 PM
>  >  > To: 'Bill Eyer'; 'Brian Dennis'
>  >  > Cc: 'Carlos Trujillo'; 'ahmed badr'; 'Cisco certification'
>  >  > Subject: RE: what to do next?
>  >  >
>  >  > If you are looking at developing speed by itself, you're thinking about it a
>  >  > little shortsighted (IMHO).  Look at it more from the "how can I do it
>  >  > faster" by using things like aliases, or notepad, cut/paste, etc.  It's a
>  >  > process, not a race.
>  >  >
>  >  > HTH,
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
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>  >  >
>  >  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>  >  > Eyer
>  >  > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:03 PM
>  >  > To: Brian Dennis
>  >  > Cc: Carlos Trujillo; ahmed badr; Cisco certification
>  >  > Subject: Re: what to do next?
>  >  >
>  >  > Brian,
>  >  >
>  >  > I think you recommended taking one lab and doing it over and over again to
>  >  > develop speed, but it wasn't the entire workbook.
>  >  >
>  >  > Bill
>  >  >
>  >  > Brian Dennis wrote:
>  >  > > Carlos,
>  >  > >   It's not recommended to do all 20 Vol II labs 6 or 7 times.  That
>  >  > > would be crazy ;-)  There are different approaches that we recommend
>  >  > > but it is based upon the individual candidate.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
>  >  > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>  >  > >
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>  >  > >
>  >  > >> ----- Original Message -----
>  >  > >>
>  >  > > Subject: Re: what to do next?
>  >  > > Date: Mon, May 12, 2008 9:54
>  >  > > From: "Carlos Trujillo" <carlos.trujillo.jimenez@gmail.com>
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >> Yes, after finishing a vendor workbook you may know your weak areas,
>  >  > >> and do all once again, but focusing in your weak areas, then its
>  >  > >> better to try
>  >  > >>
>  >  > > mock
>  >  > >
>  >  > >> labs.
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Internetworkexpert guys, recommend doing their workbook around 6 or 7
>  >  > >>
>  >  > > times!
>  >  > >
>  >  > >> I think its too much, but it depends in the candidate.
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> 2008/5/11, ahmed badr <eng.ahmedbadr@gmail.com>:
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>> After finishing the WB for one vendor, is it recommended to solve it
>  >  > >>> once again or go and solve the WB of another vendor?
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