From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 14 2008 - 15:32:33 ART
John,
I was NOT trying to tell you that you are asking stupid questions, i am
trying to tell you NOT to be discouraged by some of the vague questions that
some of the vendors put together, a question like that does not tell you
much, I thought that you knew the difference between shaping and policing
and you were trying to get a clue on the question.
Some of these vendors will purposely get students all messed up to draw them
into their classes, i doubt very much that you or anyone else will get a
vague question like that. I am sorry if i offended you, i did not mean to do
that, i was trying to make sure that you were not discouraged.
Unicast me if you need more help.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:36 AM, John <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> It was purposly ambigious.  I'm going through qos and some things are not
> quite clear.  I understand there are various forms of rate-limiting one
> rate, two rate, two paint, treee paint etc.  I'm also trying to pick up
> clues as to what a task is asking me ie "shape the average rate", "limit
> protocol to to xKbs", which are easy clues.  I'm reading the config guide
> and various RFC's now, but that doesn't mean I won't get confused sometimes.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Cosgrove" <
> paul.cosgrove@heanet.ie>
> To: "John" <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com>
> Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:24 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Traffic shaping vs rate limit
>
>
> Hi John,
>>
>> Shaping and policing are not the same beast.  In addition there are a
>> number of policing methods to choose from, and they also operate differently
>> from each other.
>>
>> Your question does not include any information which suggests the use of
>> one over the other.  Based on that you could use either, but the question
>> would normally indicate to you which to use.
>>
>> The doc cd has some good information explaining the differences in the
>> various commands.
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>
>>> What a great point!!!  Thanks for the help.  Maybe one day I'll be able
>>> to
>>> point out peoples ignorance of a subject by calling their questions "
>>> ridiculous", instead of trying to clarify them.  I guess that's easier
>>> than
>>> not replying.
>>>
>>> Again thanks
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Narbik Kocharians
>>>  To: John
>>>  Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:52 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: Traffic shaping vs rate limit
>>>
>>>
>>>  Some times these questions get ridiculous, its like saying answer the
>>> following questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  exactly, did you get it right?
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:09 AM, John <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Lets take a very ambigouis question.  Make sure traffic on int x does
>>> not
>>>    exceed 256k.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Intx
>>>
>>>    traffic shape rate 256000 32000 0
>>>
>>>    VS
>>>    intx
>>>
>>>    rate-limit 256000 32000 32000 conform transmit exceed drop
>>>
>>>    I'm pretty sure I'm missing something to me these are the same
>>>
>>>
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