From: John (jgarrison1@austin.rr.com)
Date: Mon Aug 11 2008 - 11:24:51 ART
Inanimate objects can't be stupid or smart.  I realize this, and am just 
whining.  Send cheese soonest
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@internetworkexpert.com>
To: "'John'" <jgarrison1@austin.rr.com>; "'Fahad Khan'" 
<fahad.khan@gmail.com>; "'Scott Strobeck'" <scott@strobeck.net>
Cc: <CCIElab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:24 AM
Subject: RE: Getting rid of frame maps
> That doesn't make frame stupid...  It just makes the IOS load that you 
> have
> a little irritating.  ;)
>
> Not everything in life works as planned all the time!
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of 
> John
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:52 PM
> To: Fahad Khan; Scott Strobeck
> Cc: CCIElab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Getting rid of frame maps
>
> No sir I don't like it, not one bit.  Frame is stupid, because it doesn't
> behave like I want it too.  I always clear inarp, and sometimes I reload,
> although I have no exact rule as to when I reload and I when I don't. Shut
> no shut doesn't always do the trick
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Fahad Khan
>  To: Scott Strobeck
>  Cc: John ; CCIElab@groupstudy.com
>  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:58 AM
>  Subject: Re: Getting rid of frame maps
>
>
>  Yes, "no frame inverse-arp" disables the inverse-arp request but not the
> reply. I think there is no way to block reply. Thats why by enabling
> inverse-arp just at one end you get the mappings on the other end.
>
>
>  On 8/10/08, Scott Strobeck <scott@strobeck.net> wrote:
>    John,
>
>    "no frame-relay inverse-arp" keeps the interface from sending arp
> requests out.  It doesn't, however, keep the router from creating dynamic
> mappings based on incoming arp requests.  (Or at least it maps based on
> somthing, . .
> I assume it's incoming arp requests.)
>
>    Anyway, try disabling inverse arp on only one side of a FR link and
> clear the inarp, then bounce the opposite end and watch the map reappear 
> on
> the side with inarp disabled.  . . .
>
>    I got bit by this on a mock lab and it makes a very good point.  IF IN
> YOUR LAB YOU ARE USING DYNAMIC MAPPINGS, DISABLE INVERSE ARP ON ALL OTHER
> DLCI'S. If you don't, you may end up with dynamic mappings elsewhere in 
> your
> lab you didn't even expect.  After setting up all your frame relay in your
> lab, I STRONGLY suggest issuing "show frame-relay map" on EVERY router
> running FR to make sure you don't have unwanted dynamic mappings.  YOU 
> WILL
> LOSE POINT FOR THIS!
>
>    Scott
>
>
>
>
>    John wrote:
>
>      Maybe someone can explain this to me.  I enterd the no frame inverse
> commands
>      and reloaded the router.  When I do a show frame map it appears that 
> I
> have
>      gotten rid of the unwanted dynamic mappings.  When I do a sh frame 
> pvc
> | inc
>      dlci.  I see dlci's that should not be there because of the no frame
> inv
>      commands.  Why is this???
>
>
>      interface Serial0/0/0
>       ip address 54.4.2.6 255.255.255.0
>       encapsulation frame-relay
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 61
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 63
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 601
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 604
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 605
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 621
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 624
>       no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 625
>      end
>
>      R6(config-router)#DO SH FRAME MAP
>      Serial0/0/0 (up): ip 54.4.2.254 dlci 62(0x3E,0xCE0), dynamic,
>                   broadcast,, status defined, active
>      R6(config-router)#DO SH FRAME PVC | INC DLCI
>      DLCI = 61, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 62, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 63, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 64, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 65, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 66, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 601, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 602, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 603, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 604, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 605, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 607, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 608, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE =
>      Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 609, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE =
>      Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 613, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 621, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 622, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 623, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 624, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 625, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 627, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 628, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE =
>      Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 629, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE =
>      Serial0/0/0
>      DLCI = 633, DLCI USAGE = UNUSED, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Serial0/0/0
>      R6(config-router)#
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