From: Colin McNamara (Colin@2cups.com)
Date: Wed Sep 10 2008 - 15:23:52 ART
Just don't hit it, and it won't hit back.
Dane Newman wrote:
> I don't know with cisco it's the self defending network how could I
> ever trust a company that wants to put me out of a job
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Luan Nguyen" <luan@netcraftsmen.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Cisco wants to remind people that if it's Cisco Powered Network, it
>> could be
>> run by toddlers :), which reminds me that I should get my 7 years old a
>> Cisco router for his birthday instead of some Lego Bionicles.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Colin McNamara
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:21 PM
>> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
>>
>> If that would get them to stop using the "human network" I would be
>> all in.
>> I just don't get the point of having pictures of toddlers in slide decks
>> while presenting to enterprise customers.....
>>
>> Joseph Brunner wrote:
>>> :0)
>>>
>>> Great one man!
>>>
>>> That pretty much settles it!
>>>
>>> Cisco should use that as it ad slogan!
>>>
>>>
>>> "What has your network done for you lately?"
>>>
>>> Considering I'm consulting till the end of the year at Ogilvy & Mather
>> (who
>>> has the Cisco account) I'll walk up stairs and ask them to use it!
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Anthony Faria
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:55 AM
>>> To: Colin McNamara
>>> Cc: Cisco certification
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
>>>
>>> All I know is that it is Cisco that pays my bills. I think a lot of us
>> could
>>> say the same. What has Nortel done for me lately LOL.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Colin McNamara <Colin@2cups.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does anybody want to get into a Ford vs Chevy debate while we are
>>>> at it?
>>>> Both companies are mature large cap investments. I think people would
>>>> generally agree that Nortel's strength has mainly been in carrier
>>>>
>>> equipment
>>>
>>>> and TDM PBX's. Cisco has always been heavy in the enterprise play
>>>> (route
>> /
>>>> switch / voip / security), while participating in the carrier segments
>>>>
>>> also.
>>>
>>>> I think at the end of the day the discussion is not about what is
>>>> better
>>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>> faster, because with chipset releases, code upgrades that will always
>>>> change. The question is, what is better for the customer. That can
>>>> encompass, training, support, future proofing, end to end product
>>>>
>>> coverage.
>>>
>>>> In that aspect, I think Cisco has an edge.
>>>>
>>>> But, thats just my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Colin McNamara
>>>> (858)208-8105
>>>> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara
>>>>
>>>> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
>>>> longer"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Brunner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of
>>>>> growth.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>> So much for that analyst job at Goldman Zacks
>>>>>
>>>>> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=csco
>>>>>
>>>>> hit "5yr" its been pretty flat the whole decade. Cisco is a mature
>>>>> company.
>>>>> Nortel is a mature company also, but with less marketing and bad
>>>>> management.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both of these companies together are in a very flat, slow growth
>>>>>
>>> industry.
>>>
>>>>> Apple computer makes toys for people with credit cards who don't like
>>>>> saving
>>>>> money like IPOD's and Mac books;
>>>>>
>>>>> Cisco makes network technology that powers business and government
>>>>> communication networks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cisco was once a $500B company. It has yet to recover from the .com
>> bust.
>>>>> So in a way Cisco's shareholders didn't benefit from the 2002-2006
>>>>> stock
>>>>> market recovery much, if at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Crox was a better stock ;) (and they are more comfortable too!)
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Christopher Copley
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:09 AM
>>>>> To: Muhammad Nasim
>>>>> Cc: Ina&Laurean; Bill Eyer; Brad Ellis; Cisco certification
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
>>>>>
>>>>> Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be very OT, but if you look at Nortel Stock price it is in a
>>>>>
>>> nose
>>>
>>>>> dive. And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of
>>>>> growth. Technology aside, why trust your network in the hands of a
>>>>> company
>>>>> that looks like it is bleeding money(and failing) like dropped
>>>>> packets
>>>>> from
>>>>> a firewall? Now this is coming from a business perspective and not a
>>>>> technology perspective, but I would rather trust my network to a
>>>>> company/vender that looks like it will still be here in 2010! I have
>>>>>
>>> read
>>>
>>>>> nothing but bad things in the investment realm on the quality of
>>>>> Nortel
>>>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> viable company to invest in. So again, why trust your network to any
>>>>> thing
>>>>> with a Nortel sticker on it?
>>>>>
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>> Colin McNamara
>> (858)208-8105
>> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH
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