From: Bill Eyer (beyer@optonline.net)
Date: Sat Oct 25 2008 - 15:57:01 ARST
Antonio,
Reading through the NMC information, what it looks like to me is that
NetMaster is now selling the product they used to sell for $1400 for
$4800 with the only addition being it's has the Cisco name. No word if
there is a discount for current NMC customers, at least I can't find any.
Bill
Antonio Soares wrote:
> Well, the NMC's DoIT workbook seems the first victim of the 360 program...
> All the excellent products they had simply disappeared from the store. And i
> feel more bad news are coming :(
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares@netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Eyer
> Sent: sabado, 25 de Outubro de 2008 18:26
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Brad Ellis; Troy F.; Robert Dobre; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
>
> Narbik
>
> What I am trying to fully understand is this:
>
> 1. Will some vendors remain independent (and hopefully more reasonably
> priced)
> 2. Those who also jump into the Cisco 360 program, will they just be
> teaching NetMaster's class or will they be able to develop their own.
>
> Bill
>
> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>
>> There is only one authorized CCIE program, before Cisco made this
>> announcement, all you had to do was submit your work book and as long
>> as you adhered to certain stuff your course/class became authorized.
>> But since Cisco has made the announcement about their program, THERE
>> IS NO OTHER CISCO AUTHORIZED CLASS, whether its derivative or NOT, if
>> you want to see who is correct, JUST CALL CISCO AND FIND OUT. Cisco at
>> this time is only working with certain vendors, and NONE of the
>> vendors in this list can offer these classes, they can only do so by
>> going through the companies that i mentioned. Once again, CALL CISCO
>> AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELVES. Cisco will NOT work with any company to
>> lower the price, if that was the case, Global Knowledge, Skyline-ATS, Fast
>>
> Lane and CTT would had done it already.
>
>> Now what happens in the future? God knows, but what i am stating is
>> the fact as of NOW.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> It's geared towards corporate customers at the moment. We are working
>>> with Learning@Cisco to offer some lower cost options as well.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Brad Ellis
>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> CCSI# 30482
>>> CEO / President
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
>>> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>> Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Eyer [mailto:beyer@optonline.net]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:14 AM
>>> To: Brad Ellis
>>> Cc: Troy F.; Robert Dobre; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
>>>
>>> In an open request to all vendors, PLEASE consider continuing to
>>> offer your own material. $4500 just to get started is really steep.
>>>
>>> Is Cisco trying to make this exclusive just by making it too
>>> expensive for most people to afford?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Brad Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> NMC is the only one advertising the program that I can find. We are
>>>> working with Cisco now on the possibilities of offering the program.
>>>>
>>>> I did hear that Brian applied to become a CLP, so it's possible
>>>> he'll
>>>>
>>>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>
>>>> offering it too.
>>>>
>>>> Fyi - CCBOOTCAMP has been a Cisco authorized training partner for
>>>> over seven years now. Our current CCIE training programs are
>>>> approved by Cisco as derivative works.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>> CEO / President
>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
>>>> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>> Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Of
>>>
>>>
>>>> Troy F.
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:47 PM
>>>> To: Robert Dobre
>>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
>>>>
>>>> Looks Like NMC has released their offerings:
>>>> http://blog.netmasterclass.net/?p=34
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone registered for that program yet? Since that is a Cisco
>>>> program can you buy it from Cisco or should we do it though a
>>>> vendor?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/23/08, Robert Dobre <robert.dobre@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> As Cisco recently announced there is a learning program called
>>>>> Cisco
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 360
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> that will be available starting November 1st.
>>>>> As a result of that, I saw that Internetworkexpert started the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> registration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> for the Assestment Lab (plus a major anouncement for early next
>>>>> week)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Netmasterclass closed the online store anouncing the offering of
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cisco 360 learning program.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wondering how will affect this new program the offer of the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> existing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> CCIE learning providers.
>>>>> Is Internetwork expert going to finalize the Lab workbook 1 v5 ?
>>>>> Will we be able to book existing Mock labs to the CCIE providers?
>>>>> Will we have a transition to the unified learning structure?
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you see it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find below the Official mesage:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Available November 1st: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE
>>>>> Routing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Switching*
>>>>>
>>>>> Designed to help high potential network professionals transform
>>>>> into certified network experts, the Cisco 360 Learning Program for
>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Routing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and Switching is the first Cisco authorized learning program for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> expert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> training. The Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE Routing and
>>>>> Switching prepares networking professionals for the challenges of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> managing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> sophisticated networks as well as the configuration and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> troubleshooting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> scenarios found on CCIE examinations.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Cisco 360 Learning Program is a six-month blended learning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> experience
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> incorporating advanced skills assessments, targeted learning
>>>>> modules, instructor-led training, mentoring and hands-on practice
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> assessement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> labs to accelerate expert-level competency. The Cisco 360 Learning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Program
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> will be made available through select authorized Cisco Learning
>>>>> Partners<
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG~wpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e~yL~Jvkq~x~~&2
>>> =13
>>>
>>>
>>>> 48
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information, visit Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Routing and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Switching.<
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG~wpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e~yL~Jvkq~x~~&2
>>> =14
>>>
>>>
>>>> 07
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
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