From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 24 2008 - 22:03:07 ARST
After you complete
your WAN router install, what recommendation can you make to the customer
concerning their HUB.A. I will ask them to rplace it with a switchQ. Ali
what
is your reason for this recommendation.Ali could not come up with one.
My question is:
Why do people defend a person with a CCIE, who does not understand the
difference between a hub and a switch?
Exactly what is this person going to do on the job?
As Nki said, he did not go hard on the guy - we all get nervous at
interviews - I know I do and we all tend to freeze up a little here and
there, I think that's normal too. In fact it's probably part of the
psychology behind using multiple choice tests versus say fill in the blanks.
However, the person interviewed having passed the CCIE Lab ought to be able
to understand the Spanning-Tree Protocol, the nature of ethernet networks,
how basic switching works, etc.
Now on the other extreme unless a person has been formally trained or has
been to one or more murderous interviews and been asked about the various
switching types in some depth and come up lacking (I had this experience
once), then the chances of a person doing out and buying books like Cisco
IOS Architectures and Cisco Express Forwarding are not going to be at the
top of the list. Nor is the new book on Control Plane Security by Cisco
Press.
However, someone with a few years busing data centers will know most of the
answers or at least be knowledgeable of them. Fresh CCIE's will likely not
have the background unless they already work in the field.
Dynamips CCIE's will be challenged.
Defend "Ali" if you like, but when your own salary rates are affected by the
CNE's of the "New World" then it will come back to haunt in the pocket book.
Conversely speaking I've been to interviews where questions are remarkably
easy or downright demeaning considering the source. My advice is to just
let those slide by. Let the interviewer keep thinking they are bright and
on top of things. Oh well. No need to get caught up in getting an offer
working in that environment - whatever it is.
Not saying I've never been tongue tied and I've said it happens. Hell, I
had an interview once pulled from one of my largish resumes that included
mostly everything from my career. After the interview and realizing how out
of touch I was with some things, I decided it better for me to remove a few
items and even credentials I was obviously no longer an expert at or was
severly out of practice with.
Some things we keep forever and others fade. Example: I still remember DOS
down to the CLI and flags. However, I have trouble recalling FSMO Roles in
Windows 2000. You see my point.
If the story is true and very little reason to believe it is not: Our friend
Ali only just passed the lab less than 60 days ago.
I've spoken to friends who passed 2+ years ago and they are doing higher
level jobs now and being paid accordingly, and they admit to getting a
little out of touch with the CLI. Unfortunate but understandable. Less
than 60 days does not carry a good excuse.
Just a few thoughts on the matter.
I guess this is why Cisco is cracking down on the "Gunmen".
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