From: Alexei Monastyrnyi (alexeim73@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 07:36:19 ARST
that would work probably.. shall we go for it? :-)
A.
Piyoush Sharma wrote:
> I wonder if it would make a difference if every CCIE were to open a support
> ticket asking Cisco to get rid of the new logo...
> IMO even if 9-10k tickets open up, it should get somebody's attention....
>
> For some reason this has affected how I perceive the CCIE certification. I
> am not sure if the new logo is worth all the pain, suffering and sleepless
> nights counting configs and OSPF timers in bed.
> Do not get me wrong, I know the value comes with knowledge and this is a
> validation as such, however, I cannot help but ponder if Cisco has shirked
> their moral responsibility by making a change such as this without proper
> feedback and/or comments from the people it would affect the most. If the
> entire community sends a message to Cisco, it would have an impact.
> If people show up at the Networkers wearing old CCIE logos, and not new
> ones.. every last one of them... that would send a pretty strong message...
>
> Cisco might own the trademark, but we (particularly CCIE's..) EARN IT!!!
>
> Just something to think about.
>
> -Piyoush
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Scott Morris <
> smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
>
>> hehhehe Do you really think that people did NOT mention the concept of
>> keeping the old one? :)
>>
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>> From: Darby Weaver [mailto:ccie.weaver@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:47 PM
>> To: Scott Morris
>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; swm@emanon.com; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez;
>> Andrew Larkins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey if you really dislike the logo...
>>
>>
>>
>> Do not download it. If some 20,000 people refuse to acknowledge its
>> legitimacy then it will not last very long.
>>
>>
>>
>> To be fair to Cisco they did offer a survey offering at least two type of
>> logos. Maybe someone should have recommended keeping the old one.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, since there are so many tracks now this will serve to benifit
>> those
>> wil specialty tracks and multiple CCIE's the most.
>>
>>
>>
>> And it will likely affect the majoroty of CCIE's in the other direction,
>> since a little bit of the halo "one logo fits all" aspect may be diminished
>> a bit. Kind of like being just an MCSE versus being an MCSE+Security or
>> MCSE+Messaging back in the day or a CNE versus a Master CNE, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't feel bad employers are already asking for a CCNA or a CCIE to fill
>> positions with. Now the logos for everyone will make this even more likely
>> since the logos kind of look alike. How's HR to know the difference, who
>> keeps track of these things anyway?
>>
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>>
>> On 1/18/09, Scott Morris <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>> They likely are. Or someone will forward it on. Whether it makes a
>> difference or not is another story.
>>
>> Or whether it gets forwarded high enough up the chain, I'm not sure. There
>> are a lot of things that can be changed in the world with grassroots
>> movements... perhaps this could be one of them? :)
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: markom@gmail.com [mailto:markom@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marko
>> Milivojevic
>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM
>> To: swm@emanon.com
>> Cc: Scott Morris; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez; Andrew Larkins;
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:47, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just promise me you won't open up a cert support ticket about it! :)
>>>
>> Ah, you see! That's a bloody good idea! If I do that, the whole new
>> thing may collapse and they may be forced to roll back.
>>
>> Btw. new logos, suck on so many levels. Did you notice that there is
>> no vector version any longer? We're stuck with 3 sizes, which look
>> disgusting at best when printed out. Not to mention that there is no
>> official B&W version.
>>
>> What a sloppy work, I can't believe it. What the hell is wrong with
>> what once was the greatest certification program? Sure, I hold some
>> grudge about failing CCDE, but really, this is nonsense.
>>
>> And yeah, I hope they are reading.
>>
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