Re: Why is Open Ended Question in the Begining of the lab?

From: mahmoud genidy (ccie.mahmoud@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Feb 16 2009 - 02:35:29 ARST


Narbik,

We are looking for a conceptual challenge from Cisco rather than a
know/don't know questions. I don't like to remember or to keep much
information in my mind. We have enough stuff to care about in life more just
being network engineers. It would make sense to allow us to access the DOC
CD during the Open-Ended questions Cisco. Then I wouldn't mind to challenge
us as much as they can. But this is not the case!

So to sum up I agree that Cisco have the right to chalenge people they way
they like but in an engineering and conceptual sense. Which is not the case
based on the feebdback of guys who have tried the exam.

Mahmoud.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:

> But wouldn't you guys like to go through the lab and see whats up?
> If anyone has doubts about their knowledge of answering these questions,
> they are simply NOT ready. I have had few of my students that passed and
> all
> they said was "If you are ready, you are ready, if you are NOT then you
> should NOT take the exam", and i have to agree.
> Whether the test is before or after or in the middle of the lab, what is
> the
> difference? What does it matter?
> I hope they implement more stuff to kick the fake ones out, i am very glad
> about these questions. If it was up to me, i would ask a written question
> after each Task saying explain yourself, why did you perform that task. Do
> you know of other ways to configure the same task? name couple of other
> ways
> that would accomplish the same task.
> This is what i would do.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > I think Cisco just stayed with the order as was part of the "beta" for
> this
> > addition in China. There, they asked the candidate ORAL questions prior
> to
> > their attempt in order to establish the candidate actually knew Cisco
> > networking. :-|
> >
> > I believe without thinking about it too much - they just kept these
> written
> > question in front.
> >
> > I have to agree with Jason in that I would prefer them first thing when I
> > am "fresh". Although I certainly see your point about nerves. Just be
> very,
> > very confident as you enter and you will be just fine!
> >
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> > On Feb 15, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Thameem Maranveetil Parambath wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >>
> >> I was wondering why cisco preffered to put the open ended question
> before
> >> the actual lab take?
> >>
> >> It is of common sense that we need not need to attempt the lab even if
> one
> >> question out of 4 is wrong in that section.
> >>
> >> It would have been better if we could attend this questions after we
> >> finish the lab as we could feel more confident .
> >>
> >> Whats your views on this?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Thameem
> >>
> >>
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