From: Peter Kurdziel (usaccie@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Feb 22 2009 - 22:41:42 ARST
Success is your own damn fault.
Think about it.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Bryan Stair <uptown.ccie@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Bryan Stair <uptown.ccie@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM
> Subject: Fwd: [NON Tech] Need Plan/Guidance/Motivation
> To: dave dave <funccie@gmail.com>, ccielab-subscribe@groupstudy.com
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bryan Stair <uptown.ccie@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [NON Tech] Need Plan/Guidance/Motivation
> To: Rick Tyrell <rtyrell@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dave,
>
> You have to ask yourself why you are doing certain things. First you have
> to
> determine what's important to you. It may not be the CCIE or is it? The
> reason why I pose this question is very simple, people will do what comes
> naturally to them. I tell people all the time that if your in this business
> because of money or because you want bragging rights due to a
> certification
> then you may want to take a second look. If you are naturally curious about
> how things work and why then you stand a chance of succeeding.
>
> I have maintained a gruelling schedule between life, work, and family but I
> make it a priority to invest in my career, knowledge, and skill set. The
> CCIE for me is more about the journey and how I faced the challenge more
> than getting the correct answer. If I look at it that way I get more out of
> the experience than just I knew the answer and that's what keeps me
> motivated to continue. Over the years I have made my attempts and if I had
> just the exam to concentrate on then I probably would have passed a long
> time ago.
>
> Here are some suggestions that may or may not help. When I reach a point
> where I can't or don't want to continue I write down some very simple
> notes.
> What is the real reason why I don't want to do it? What's in my way from
> completing this goal? Am I tired, run down, overwhelmed, feeling
> incompetent. Then once I understand that I can adjust and fix what's wrong.
> Get some rest, take a break, do something totally unrelated to work and
> technology. Generally the answers will come to me during this time. For me
> writing down my feelings sounds corny but it has worked to get my past
> whatever is blocking me. I simply have made room for new things to come in
> (its a spiritual principle)
>
> As it relates to the practice labs I take notes after each lab and I ask
> myself questions with regards to my knowledge. What am I weak at? Why? How
> to overcome the hurdle? Why didn't I do well on that practice lab? Thoughts
> scattered, poor planning, too many outside distractions? Never took time to
> understand the technology!! My problems usually stem from not enough rest.
> Once I get the proper rest then I am back to the challenge.
>
> Develop your own system of attacking and solving problems and it will
> follow
> you for the rest of your days. Do you understand how you learn things? What
> factors influence and make you sucessful? You have to find these things out
> because if not there is no way you can juggle a schedule, study and
> maintain
> your life.
>
> Please view my notes as just a guideline. It is not an attempt to tell you
> how smart I am or I have something you don't. I just have used this
> challenge as a way to expand upon my knowledge and develop a system for
> learning. Remember I have yet to complete but with some tenacity I
> will.....
> I always do.....
>
> This is the CCIE..the joy is in the journey. The CCIE is not the end its
> just the beginning
>
> Good Luck
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Rick Tyrell <rtyrell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Dave, I know exactly where you are coming from!
> >
> > I drudged through the CCNP years ago, having to take the Troubleshooting
> > and
> > Support test three times to pass. Man that was a drain on the brain.
> Then
> > I finally got motivated to do my CCIE written, I attended Narbik's R&S
> > Written Bootcamp. I mainly went there because it was cheap :) But after
> > attending I got something that I wasn't expected out of it -- MOTIVATION
> &
> > PASSION. Narbik rekindled the passion I had for networking. I had lost
> > that passion dealing with everyday beat downs at work and the stress this
> > industry can place on you. It seems you go to work to help people but
> end
> > up getting put through a grinder and then have to do it all over again
> the
> > next day. That on top of personal life issues can really derail your
> CCIE
> > studying.
> >
> > After Narbik's bootcamp I was really doing well and had a passion for the
> > LAB. Once again life decided to derail my studies and I put CCIE
> studying
> > on the backburner. All of a sudden my 18 months from my Written was
> coming
> > up and I needed to attempt the LAB or else I was going to have to retake
> > the
> > Written. I bought some mock Lab workbooks and kind of "half-assed"
> studied
> > for a few months but it was not enough. I failed the first attempt. I
> > was just happy to say "Yeah I attempted the CCIE Lab".
> >
> > Again instead of picking up where I left off I got burned out and didn't
> > feel like studying for the beast anymore. Eventually my year to attempt
> > the
> > LAB was coming up again! I didn't know what to do, I felt like giving
> up.
> > So I read some blogs and found out Narbik had a R&S bootcamp which was
> > fairly inexpensive. I booked it 3 months out from my LAB. Wow he really
> > lit a fire under my butt! I was pumped now. I studied non-stop with a
> > purpose and passion for 3 months straight. Unfortunately I did not leave
> > enough time between his bootcamp and my 2nd attempt. I did not have time
> > to
> > go through all the material. So I went through as much Core material as
> I
> > could and got some IPExpert online rack time (I have some workbooks of
> > theirs from my 1st attempt). They were great, they updated my workbooks
> to
> > a newer edition for free and gave me a voucher for one free rack rental.
> > So
> > I took a one week vacation right before the LAB and did 8 hour mock-labs
> > everyday.
> >
> > The day of LAB I felt in control and confident, but ran into one problem
> > that I spent 2 hours fixing whereas I should have spent 10 minutes on and
> > came back to later. That was my downfall. I did not pass, that was Feb.
> > 10th. But instead of throwing in the towel I am determined to not give
> up
> > and even make up some of my own labs to practice my weak areas.
> >
> > Sorry for the long post, but I know where you are coming from. My saving
> > grace was attending Narbik's bootcamp. He not only teaches what you need
> > to
> > learn, but makes it exciting again (remember the first Cisco router you
> > logged into!). Also he can help you develop a plan for studying and
> let's
> > you attend for free as many times as you want after your initial week.
> My
> > advice is attend a bootcamp through someone -- doesn't have to be Narbik
> > but
> > he is the only one I can share my experience with. This will not only
> help
> > your knowledge, but will rekindle the passion. This industry can burn
> you
> > out fast!
> >
> > Good luck and keep us updated.
> >
> > -Rick
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:08 AM, dave dave <funccie@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Chap,
> > >
> > > I am doing my CCIE study since long but due to some personal &
> > > official responsibity i am unable to keep consistency in my study. I
> just
> > > wanted to know how you people can manage to get more than 1 CCIE with
> > > manging your own responsibility.
> > >
> > > My main consern is how you people keep your passion & moral going when
> > you
> > > drop the study due to personal/official responsibility & then need to
> > start
> > > it again. I am also lacking for good plan & statergy to achive my
> CCIE,
> > if
> > > you can share your plan (blog/site) to be a CCIE that will help me lot.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
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