From: Joe Astorino (joe_astorino@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Mar 27 2009 - 16:48:06 ART
How do you think Narbik got so good? .... Grandma! : ) 
"He not busy being born is busy dying" -- Dylan 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Faria" <tfaria72@gmail.com> 
To: jscrivener@ipexpert.com 
Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>, "ccievoice1" <ccievoice1@gmail.com>, "Radioactive Frog" <pbhatkoti@gmail.com>, "Darby Weaver" <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>, "GAURAV MADAN" <gauravmadan1177@gmail.com>, "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com> 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:50:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: What Next ? 
Dude Granma is a quad CCIE!! 
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Jared Scrivener 
<jscrivener@ipexpert.com>wrote: 
> LOL. I've never met Narbik's grandmother, but I've met his brother a few 
> times when we used to train for the same company and he seemed like a nice 
> guy and pretty switched on. ;) 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Jared Scrivener CCIE3 #16983 (R&S, Security, SP), CISSP 
> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. 
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 
> Mailto: jscrivener@ipexpert.com 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Faria 
> Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 1:27 PM 
> To: Narbik Kocharians 
> Cc: ccievoice1; Radioactive Frog; Darby Weaver; GAURAV MADAN; Cisco 
> certification 
> Subject: Re: What Next ? 
> 
> Hey what about Grandma? LOL 
> 
> Tony 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com 
> >wrote: 
> 
> > It will be either me or my younger brother, he has 14 years in this 
> > industry, and he does Nothing BUT Voice, Storage and datacenter. He has 
> > and 
> > still conducts classes for the Cisco and other firms in Europe, i guess 
> > Jared knows him from Australia. 
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:24 AM, ccievoice1 <ccievoice1@gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi Narbik, 
> > > Is the CCIE Voice bootcamp going to conduct by yourself? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com 
> > >wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> Have you looked at our CCIE Voice Foundation class, it combines 9 - 10 
> > >> Voice 
> > >> classes into one. Have a look at it, the prerequisite is CCNA. 
> > >> 
> > >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Radioactive Frog < 
> pbhatkoti@gmail.com 
> > >> >wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> > A good advise my boss (he's not a ccie, dont need one) gave me was: 
> > >> > 
> > >> > Do "specialization" course - IPCC enterprise for example, rather 
> than 
> > >> going 
> > >> > for another CCIE. 
> > >> > in iptel world IPCC-E people earn more than any CCIE. to learn 
> IPCC-E 
> > >> you 
> > >> > don't hvae to be a ccie. 
> > >> > Just a good programmer and logical thinker :) 
> > >> > 
> > >> > I have chosen different thing - R&S to study, but working in Voice 
> > >> field. 
> > >> > It 
> > >> > gives you a bit of varieties :) 
> > >> > 
> > >> > I would say, check your pocket - does a single RS ccie which you 
> have 
> > >> > filling it up? or its has some room in it? 
> > >> > If you need some extra then do something "Industry demand" related 
> > >> courses 
> > >> > as Darby or my boss have suggested. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > for example "CCNA wireless or voice" that will add additional skill 
> > to 
> > >> > your 
> > >> > R&S skills - that will definitely top up your pocket :) 
> > >> > 
> > >> > Think about the business point of view. if you are only 
> > >> routing/switching 
> > >> > guy and the compnay has a project which has little bit of voice 
> > products 
> > >> in 
> > >> > it. A company will send someone who can do both to reduce the 
> > >> engineering 
> > >> > cost and get most profit out of th eproject. They will avoide 
> sending 
> > 2 
> > >> > people on 1 project. 
> > >> > 
> > >> > hehe... thats what I think but everyone has their own way of 
> thinking 
> > >> > 
> > >> > -frog 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Darby Weaver < 
> ccie.weaver@gmail.com> 
> > >> > wrote: 
> > >> > 
> > >> > > Guarav, 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Have you considered building a foundation in a broad range of 
> other 
> > >> > > technologies: 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 1. CCNA Security 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 2. CCNA Voice 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 3. CCNA Wireless 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 4. CCDA/CCDP 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 5. CCSP/CCVP/CCIP/WLAN for more depth. 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > And there a multitude of Network Management Options. 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Now - Consider the certs themselves are not all there is. 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Lots of skills to be gleaned from Cisco's own website as you know 
> > well 
> > >> > > already. 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Cisco ACS Server and Cisco Works are two very under-utilized 
> > platforms 
> > >> > that 
> > >> > > are 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > 
> > >> 
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> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> -- 
> > >> Narbik Kocharians 
> > >> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) 
> > >> www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/> 
> > >> www.Net-Workbooks.com <http://www.net-workbooks.com/> 
> > >> Sr. Technical Instructor 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net 
> > >> 
> > >> 
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> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Narbik Kocharians 
> > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) 
> > www.MicronicsTraining.com 
> > www.Net-Workbooks.com 
> > Sr. Technical Instructor 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> 
> 
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