Not upset, just reading too much into it.  I suppose it boils down to 
very much being compared to hunting.  It's a game where everyone isn't 
really aware they were playing.
;)
Tony Varriale wrote:
>
> Inline again for readability...
>
>  
>
> */From:/*/ Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:56 PM
> *To:* tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com
> *Cc:* 'Cisco certification'
> *Subject:* Re: CCIE Wireless/
>
>  
>
> >It was your message.  Perhaps I read more into it with your reference 
> to the "CCIE race".  But your quote:
> >
> >"IMO, Dial and SNA are in the same class as my initial Brocade certs, 
> NT4 MCSE and 4.1 CNE. Great for drinkin' and telling stories but 
> shouldn't >be considered in a CCIE race."
> >
> >So I suppose, judging by your inline comments below, the question 
> should be:  What exactly do you define as the "CCIE race"?
>
>
> The race is who has the most active CCIEs.  Or, the title of having 
> the most active CCIEs.  Or, whatever you want to call it.  I call it a 
> race.  Outside of Cisco, it looks like Roman is going to win. J
>
>  
>
> >If we don't know we are racing how do we know who wins?  And just 
> because someone possesses a vast collection of knowledge that you do 
> not >have or deem current and/or relevant, why discount that?
>
>  
>
> I think it's fairly obvious what the race is.  But, you may have taken 
> it out of context due to my wording?  Well, here's the bottom 
> line...hopefully I can clarify.
>
>  
>
> The CCIE race, IMO, should be active CCIE tracks only.  Why?  First 
> off, the "active" CCIE tracks typically contain updated info AND are 
> obtainable by ANYONE.  I cannot go for Dial, Design, SNA, whatever 
> today.  It's that simple.
>
>
> >Meh...
>
>  
>
> Don't get all upset man!  I took the 2 day lab too and am not trying 
> to discredit anyone obtaining any certification and/or knowledge...
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> Tony Varriale wrote:
>
> Inline...
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:25 PM
> To: Tony Varriale
> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Re: CCIE Wireless
>  
>   
>
>     And I'd agree with that about skillsets.  But just what exact insight do 
>
>     you have about someone who has ONLY an ISP/Dial, or SNA/Blue, or 
>
>     WAN-Switching or Design CCIE to be able to pass any judgement whatsoever 
>
>     about what should count or not?
>
>         
>
>  
> Pass which judgement?
>  
>   
>
>     That's inane.
>
>         
>
>  
> Because?
>  
>   
>
>     I don't take it personally at all, but at the same time I cannot believe 
>
>     anyone would make brash accusations like that about someone's knowledge 
>
>     or capabilities.  
>
>         
>
>  
> What was brash?
>  
>   
>
>     Is it different than wondering about the people who 
>
>     hang out on lists like this but yet don't have their CCIE and don't 
>
>     appear to be actively moving towards it either?  
>
>         
>
>  
> Of course not.  The original topic was counting ACTIVE CCIE tracks for the
> CCIE race.  Nothing more nothing less.
>  
>   
>
>     I'm pretty sure that osmosis doesn't work in that fashion.
>
>         
>
>  
> Not sure how biology is relevant to the topic at hand...but ok.
>  
>   
>
>     But why make comments like that?
>
>         
>
>  
> Which comments?  Where are you going with this?
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