Re: CCIE bootcamp that will take learning credits?

I guess the questions to ask are: *how many people have passed using
360 material* and *how many people have passed using "grey market"
material*....

When we were a CLP, I tried to tell Cisco that the CCIE training space
was MUCH DIFFERENT than the lower-level / authorized training
market....they refused to listen (Why, I don't know - because we have
trained more CCIEs than any other company in the world - and they are
a collective group of sales reps that have never succeeded in the CCIE
training space).....

To them (Learning_at_Cisco) - all they're worried about was that they
were being converting over to a "profit center" - they could care less
about what training materials, racks, support, guarantee / updates or
instructors actually work - it boils down to "who is paying L_at_C
royalties".....that model won't fly with the consumer-base -
GUARANTEED - so, hopefully (Brad) - guys like you (in bed with Cisco)
have thought long and hard about this...(what happens when Cisco
forces you to sell their junk)

It's my guess, but I'm expecting companies pushing 360 to fail... -
heck, what do I know - I've only been running a company that's
recruited the industry's top talent, have 6 MM in online (CCIE)
hardware (with an unmatched interface), have built a study community
that's spam-free (with more posts than GS) and oh - have the largest
list of CCIE success stories out of any training company -
worldwide...and, we have been on Inc. Magazine's list of "Fast Growing
Private Companies" for the past 2 years - this year (to be announced
in August) will be our 3rd straight year....

It boils down to "what is proven" - and the 360 isn't....and won't be.
It's that simple.

If you want to pass (and earn a guaranteed six-figure income) - take
the class (and use the products) that are proven.....you're investing
in your future....hopefully "CLCs" aren't the deciding factor in what
vendor / products you choose to utilize.....

Regards,

Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
President & Founder - IPexpert, Inc.
Email: wlawson_at_ipexpert.com
Mobile: 810.334.1564

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On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> From Cisco's view if you are NOT offering the 360 program YOU ARE GREY
> MARKET. It does not matter if you are an SO, CLP or even CLSP.
> Please don't
> be fooled by that statement. But yes we too take CLCs.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> You might be mistaken with IPExpert's ability to take CLCs. They are
>> grey market, not an authorized partner like an SO, CLP, nor CLSP,
>> therefore, they can not take Cisco learning credits. Just an FYI.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brad Ellis
>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> CCSI# 30482
>> CEO / President
>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Partner (CLP)
>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Joe Astorino
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:38 PM
>> To: 'Guagliata, Justin'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE bootcamp that will take learning credits?
>>
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> We certainly take Cisco learning credits as payment for our
>> classes. I
>> just
>> went through the R&S bootcamp myself recently, and I can highly
>> personally
>> recommend it. If you want more information, let me know and I will
>> personally hook you up with one of our sales guys on the phone.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino
>> CCIE #24347 (R&S)
>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Guagliata, Justin
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:26 PM
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: CCIE bootcamp that will take learning credits?
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a CCIE boot camp that will take learning
>> credits.
>> My lab is scheduled for Aug 21st 2009, and I'm looking for a date in
>> early july if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Guagliata
>>
>> Atos Origin
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