OK Everyone. Thanks for the feedback.
Scott,
      Dare I admit that I took the 2-day lab back in 2000 and remember that
they did in fact load the lab back then? :) And I also remember when little
thinks like TR RIF decoding was an important part of the lab. Oh well.
I know that there are enough commands out there to tell how things will work
out after a reload occurs, I just didn't realize that (maybe) they had
stopped bouncing the racks at the end of the day.
Now where's that DLSW/(B)STUN config guide I was reading.....
-Hammer
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> Just a quick question, did any of the proctors say that they don't reload
> the rack?
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
>> While power outages aren't part of the plan, they're always possible.
>> The impact has changed a bit now for two reasons that have been well
>> pointed out by Cisco/proctors in Ask-the-expert...
>>
>> 1.  the equipment is centrally located in SJC now as opposed to spread
>> out globally.  Centrally managed and such.
>> 2.  The equipment being used has a clock chip so even if you do reboot,
>> THAT part isn't an issue.
>>
>> OSPF DR/BDR is another issue, but if a student has been paying attention
>> in (hopefully) any bootcamp, they should be painfully aware of what to
>> look for and what not to get caught by.
>>
>> If a candidate has a planned reload schedule to re-check their items
>> (lunch and mid-afternoon in my recommendations) then they needn't have
>> anything to worry about, or in case they forget the OSPF DR thing, they
>> have plenty of time still to figure it out.  No surprises.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Darby Weaver wrote:
>> > Agreed. However I've been to some classes where some might lead students
>> to
>> > think otherwise.  Proctors will warn of power fluctuations or small
>> outages
>> > and one should always be prepared for this type of contingency.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Nope, they don't touch 'em.  There's enough other show commands to know
>> >> who will be DR after a reload!  :)   They only used to in the two-day
>> >> format.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> #4713,
>> >>
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>> >>
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>> >> Hammer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Scott,
>> >>>        I thought that the proctors usually reloaded the rack before
>> >>> grading? To make sure OSPF DRs were set right and whatnot. I know it
>> >>> can all be gleamed from configs "ip ospf priority blah" but I thought
>> >>> that they mostly did show commands to grade you in the scripting. Is
>> >>> bouncing the rack something they used to do but not anymore?
>> >>>
>> >>> -Hammer
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com
>> >>>
>> >>  > <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>     The ISR routers used on the real lab have a CMOS clock, so they
>> will
>> >>>     retain their time on reload.
>> >>>
>> >>>     Your lab will not be reloaded prior to grading.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>     Anh Khoa Le Viet wrote:
>> >>>     > Hi Group,
>> >>>     >
>> >>>     > I took a mock lab from a vendor today with task about the EIGRP
>> >>>     > authentication: An MD5 hash of the password CISCO1 should be
>> >>>     used from
>> >>>     > 12:00AM on
>> >>>     > 1/1/2006 to 11:59PM on 12/31/2006 and An MD5 hash of the
>> >>>     password CISCO2
>> >>>     > should be used after this. I think I come out with the right
>> >>>     solution:
>> >>>     >
>> >>>     > key chain EIGRP
>> >>>     >  key 1
>> >>>     >   key-string CISCO1
>> >>>     >   accept-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2006 00:29:59 Jan 1 2007
>> >>>     >   send-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2006 11:59:59 Dec 31 2006
>> >>>     >  key 2
>> >>>     >   key-string CISCO2
>> >>>     >   accept-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2007 infinite
>> >>>     >   send-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2007 infinite
>> >>>     >
>> >>>     > But the thing is: do we need to configure ntp server and client
>> >>>     for this
>> >>>     > kind of task? At the time I did the configuration, the clock
>> >>>     showed in
>> >>>     > Routers is 2009 year time. But at the end of the lab, I did
>> >>>     reboot all the
>> >>>     > routers and found out that EIGRP did come up, quickly found that
>> >>>     the clock
>> >>>     > was back to 2002 and no EIGRP neighbors came up :(. We can not
>> >>>     do set
>> >>>     > datetime manually on the routers as if we reboot, it will came
>> >>>     back to
>> >>>     > default datetime, so the only option is NTP.
>> >>>     >
>> >>>     > Could you pleas give some advise on this kind of task? Should we
>> >>>     add NTP in
>> >>>     > the real lab or no need to do that if in the IP Services
>> >>>     portion, no NTP
>> >>>     > task?
>> >>>     >
>> >>>     > Thanks and best Regards,
>> >>>     > Khoa
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