You're carbon-dating yourself there.  :)   And yes, back in the two-day 
they did other nefarious things to us as well, but I still liked that 
format better!  Ahhhh well.
I still hate RIFs.
 
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JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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Hammer wrote:
> OK Everyone. Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Scott,
>       Dare I admit that I took the 2-day lab back in 2000 and remember that
> they did in fact load the lab back then? :) And I also remember when little
> thinks like TR RIF decoding was an important part of the lab. Oh well.
>
> I know that there are enough commands out there to tell how things will work
> out after a reload occurs, I just didn't realize that (maybe) they had
> stopped bouncing the racks at the end of the day.
>
> Now where's that DLSW/(B)STUN config guide I was reading.....
>
> -Hammer
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>   
>> Just a quick question, did any of the proctors say that they don't reload
>> the rack?
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> While power outages aren't part of the plan, they're always possible.
>>> The impact has changed a bit now for two reasons that have been well
>>> pointed out by Cisco/proctors in Ask-the-expert...
>>>
>>> 1.  the equipment is centrally located in SJC now as opposed to spread
>>> out globally.  Centrally managed and such.
>>> 2.  The equipment being used has a clock chip so even if you do reboot,
>>> THAT part isn't an issue.
>>>
>>> OSPF DR/BDR is another issue, but if a student has been paying attention
>>> in (hopefully) any bootcamp, they should be painfully aware of what to
>>> look for and what not to get caught by.
>>>
>>> If a candidate has a planned reload schedule to re-check their items
>>> (lunch and mid-afternoon in my recommendations) then they needn't have
>>> anything to worry about, or in case they forget the OSPF DR thing, they
>>> have plenty of time still to figure it out.  No surprises.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darby Weaver wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Agreed. However I've been to some classes where some might lead students
>>>>         
>>> to
>>>       
>>>> think otherwise.  Proctors will warn of power fluctuations or small
>>>>         
>>> outages
>>>       
>>>> and one should always be prepared for this type of contingency.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Nope, they don't touch 'em.  There's enough other show commands to know
>>>>> who will be DR after a reload!  :)   They only used to in the two-day
>>>>> format.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
>>>>>           
>>> #4713,
>>>       
>>>>> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hammer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>        I thought that the proctors usually reloaded the rack before
>>>>>> grading? To make sure OSPF DRs were set right and whatnot. I know it
>>>>>> can all be gleamed from configs "ip ospf priority blah" but I thought
>>>>>> that they mostly did show commands to grade you in the scripting. Is
>>>>>> bouncing the rack something they used to do but not anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Hammer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>  > <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>     The ISR routers used on the real lab have a CMOS clock, so they
>>>>>>             
>>> will
>>>       
>>>>>>     retain their time on reload.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Your lab will not be reloaded prior to grading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Anh Khoa Le Viet wrote:
>>>>>>     > Hi Group,
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > I took a mock lab from a vendor today with task about the EIGRP
>>>>>>     > authentication: An MD5 hash of the password CISCO1 should be
>>>>>>     used from
>>>>>>     > 12:00AM on
>>>>>>     > 1/1/2006 to 11:59PM on 12/31/2006 and An MD5 hash of the
>>>>>>     password CISCO2
>>>>>>     > should be used after this. I think I come out with the right
>>>>>>     solution:
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > key chain EIGRP
>>>>>>     >  key 1
>>>>>>     >   key-string CISCO1
>>>>>>     >   accept-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2006 00:29:59 Jan 1 2007
>>>>>>     >   send-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2006 11:59:59 Dec 31 2006
>>>>>>     >  key 2
>>>>>>     >   key-string CISCO2
>>>>>>     >   accept-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2007 infinite
>>>>>>     >   send-lifetime 00:00:00 Jan 1 2007 infinite
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > But the thing is: do we need to configure ntp server and client
>>>>>>     for this
>>>>>>     > kind of task? At the time I did the configuration, the clock
>>>>>>     showed in
>>>>>>     > Routers is 2009 year time. But at the end of the lab, I did
>>>>>>     reboot all the
>>>>>>     > routers and found out that EIGRP did come up, quickly found that
>>>>>>     the clock
>>>>>>     > was back to 2002 and no EIGRP neighbors came up :(. We can not
>>>>>>     do set
>>>>>>     > datetime manually on the routers as if we reboot, it will came
>>>>>>     back to
>>>>>>     > default datetime, so the only option is NTP.
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > Could you pleas give some advise on this kind of task? Should we
>>>>>>     add NTP in
>>>>>>     > the real lab or no need to do that if in the IP Services
>>>>>>     portion, no NTP
>>>>>>     > task?
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > Thanks and best Regards,
>>>>>>     > Khoa
>>>>>>     >
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