Re: Fill the Gap

As usual, nice post from Scott ;)

Thanks Scott :)

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> This is an interesting topic... And it's one of those important things
> to think about personally! In the old days, the written exam covered a
> wider breadth of materials, so you had to work on becoming familiar with
> things such as different WAN link types and such that may never have
> been on the lab exam. Today, both the written and lab are closely
> aligned, and we work with both serial (mostly PPP/Frame) and ethernet
> technologies. This doesn't give a wide amount of experience.
>
> Arguably, many places are delivering WAN links on ethernet these days
> because of reduced expenses! I know I've designed several that are.
> But the problem is, not everyone does this. And this really highlights
> a gap, albeit a selective gap, but a large gap in knowledge depending on
> where you are. If you'd like a job (not matter your location), you need
> to be clueful about what is happening with companies in your area. What
> do they do? How are they generically designed.
>
> And if you find you're running across things like SONET, ATM, SMDS,
> ISDN, whatever, then you will need to do some research to at least be
> vaguely clueful along the way! I know that Gary mentioned the CCDA/CCDP
> certifications, which I'd actually agree with as they give you a
> framework to go by.
>
> A CCIE does NOT know everything. Hell, having multiple CCIE's does not
> mean you know everything. But you know some things about HOW to find
> the answers and HOW to think about them.
>
> Hardware platform review, there's CCO. IOS versions, there's Feature
> Navigator. While I may not even know which specific versions of IOS a
> 2800 would need for BGP, my answer would be I think it's the "plus"
> version, or now known as "IP Services" but I would check the Feature
> Navigator to be sure.
>
> IMHO nobody cares that you know the specific answer to the question, but
> if asked you know how to figure it out. And no, I would not use "google
> it" as an answer.
>
> ;)
>
> HTH,
>
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> Khurram Noor wrote:
> > Thanks for your advices i just want to share my thoughts on my first
> > interview call which i recieved from a company in Pakistan. The
> interviewer
> > did not ask a thing related to routing and switching. instead he asked
> for
> > hardware platforms, IOS versions, WAN connectivity mediums, SDM etc.
> Since i
> > dont have indepth knowledge of these things, the impression wasn't so
> good.
> > For instance he asked suppose if i have a 2800 series router, which ios
> > should i use so that i can run BGP over it. and i was like wow....could i
> > ever answer such questions!
> >
> > What i now require to know is at least the begineers level knowledge
> about
> >
> > Cisco IOS types, versions features and their hardware requirments.
> > Cisco product line knowledge (like for example what series of routers or
> > switches can be used where i.e. core, access or distribution)
> > You think i am repeating, yes i am. but i think now this is what i really
> > want to know. so can you help?
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Ahmer Zakir <azakir_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Khurram,
> >> Cisco Dynamic conifguration tool can help you learn about the modules
> that
> >> can and cannot fit in a certain Cisco device. As Nasim said, nothing can
> >> replace real world experience and what this means is that you have to
> learn
> >> it the hard way.
> >>
> >> HTH!
> >>
> >> Ahmer Zakir
> >> Senior Network Engineer
> >> Saudi Arabia
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> There is no alternative of real world knowledge but you can use
> >>> dynamips extensively and can depict some scenarios,
> >>> May Allah help you finding the job
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/7/5 Khurram Noor <engr.khurramnoor_at_googlemail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>> As i have been searching for job these days, i am looking for advice
> to
> >>>> enhance my knowledge about real world network design and
> implementation.
> >>>>
> >>> In
> >>>
> >>>> my view until i get hired by some enterprise i should have a good
> >>>>
> >>> knowledge
> >>>
> >>>> of working fundamentals
> >>>>
> >>>> I am talking about
> >>>>
> >>>> - Case studies
> >>>> - Knowledge of terminologies (Hardware/IOS)
> >>>> - Complete line of Cisco products (Routing and switching)
> >>>> - Notes from CCIE field experience.
> >>>>
> >>>> So can anyone advice?
> >>>> --
> >>>> Khurram Noor
> >>>> CCIE # 24419
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/khurramnoor
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> >>>>
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