Re: The State of the CCIE Training Industry

lol ... life is short ..., and it is Friday ;-)

I think Darby is ok in my book ... I mean, who else can get his reply count
up past 50? I mean, sorry, ... 51 now. Is this legendary yet? Any idea on
the most replies ever? Maybe Darby beat his last record?

Hummm ...

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gary Duncanson <
gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:

> Darby,
>
> You give me a headache man. It's a qualification not the raison detre.
> Study
> hard and you will pass. That's it.
>
> I hope you are having a nice weekend.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Darby Weaver
> To: Luan Nguyen
> Cc: Gary Duncanson ; Persio Pucci ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: The State of the CCIE Training Industry
>
>
> Well said Luan!
>
> Sorry my main point was missed.
>
> Here's what I think and why I think now is the time for the training
> vendors
> and Cisco to take back the CCIE Certification:
>
> 1. The content has changed - about 45-55% of the layout of the exam is
> either new or different.
>
> 2. The training materials need to reflect the changes and we know they
> will.
> This is going to be a huge development effort.
>
> 3. The new materials need to be supported only by a given training
> company's
> forum or other mechanism and no other.
>
> 4. We might as well get used to the idea that if something is electronic,
> it
> was meant to be shared - cause it will be shared. LockLizard or other
> protection mechanisms not withstanding - and easily so.
>
> - Hint: If you need a key to open or enable a key - a modest amount of
> reverse engineering turns an or to a zor or whatever and voila....
> everything
> but the key opens pandora's box. You lose.
>
> - Hint: If a program needs to call home to be validated. Did the program
> have to do anythign on the box of the user? Probably... Um... Ooopps...
> You
> lose again. It is a trivial matter to sniff the transaction and either
> recreate the transaction or better yet map the call to the loop and create
> a
> test file with the value needed to be returned from the query... eveni if
> it
> is a registry call. Sucks huh? In many cases it is just that easy. And
> to
> think some very smart people paid for this level of protection.
>
> Remember that these program protect against the weakest among us and the
> weakest among us is probably not who bought the product. and if it was
> they
> might have a few hundred thousand very capable friends. One of them will
> not
> be so weak.
>
> Now I suppose some will argue that this is not an issue - they have their
> own books and would know for sure. If it is not an issue than forgive me
> for
> bringing it up. If it is an issue consider what I'm telling you carefully.
>
> And there are those who will throw stones since they may think I just made
> their efforts a little tougher by sort of spelling it all out.
>
> I'm just saying...
>
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