Re: One Misconception about lab

And of course Tony.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> I agree with Joseph and Anthony.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>wrote:
>
>> For the many "lurkers" of GroupStudy that might not have weighed in on
>> this debate, but that are now thoroughly confused, please remember this:
>>
>> There are many, many different and perfectly valid approaches to passing
>> the CCIE Lab Exam from an overall lab exam strategy perspective.
>>
>> Brian McGahan and I both passed Route/Switch, but I know for a fact we did
>> many things differently from a strategy perspective.
>>
>> Find your own personal strategy that works best for you personally. You
>> discover this through learning and practice.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>> http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Ramiro Garza wrote:
>>
>> Do not reload any of the routers/switches/etc. unless it is absolutely
>>> necessary!!!. If you have to reload, make sure you make a backup of your
>>> config and make sure you know how to skip the startup-config from rommon
>>> in
>>> case the router starts to crash during bootup, which happens usually due
>>> to
>>> a corrupted startup. In which case, the backup that you made would come
>>> in
>>> handy ;)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ramiro G.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Tony Blanco <blancoj17_at_yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Believe it or not....you always want to reload the routers in order to
>>>> make
>>>> sure that all your routes are taking the proper path, reloading the
>>>> routers
>>>> clears many issues with frame-relay preconfiguration....particular for
>>>> OSPF
>>>> routing related issues.....that is why reloading the router at the
>>>> beginning
>>>> and then at end is a healthy task to perform....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Salah ElShekeil <salah.elshekeil_at_gmail.com>
>>>> To: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>;
>>>> Bryan
>>>> Bartik <bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>; Cisco certification <
>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>;
>>>> Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>; Dennis Worth <
>>>> dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>; nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Persio Pucci <
>>>> persio_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:59:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab
>>>>
>>>> I reloaded only one router, at the beginning, I guess no need to reload
>>>> the
>>>> rack if u r sure that ur configuration is correct :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just me 2 cents :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SE
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One issue about removing the encapsulation and re-entering it back is
>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> if the interface was configured with bunch of frame-relay map
>>>>> statements,
>>>>> and you removed the encapsulation, it will also removes the frame-relay
>>>>>
>>>> map
>>>>
>>>>> statements so if you are planning to do that, make sure you write down
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> frame-relay map statements so you can reconfigure them back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a tip
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:43 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone. This is what GS is for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>, Bryan Bartik <
>>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>, Cisco certification
>>>>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Darby Weaver <
>>>>>>
>>>>> ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>,
>>>>>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com, Persio Pucci <persio_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: 07/23/2009 09:41
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does nothing for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:28 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Good morning Dennis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the clarification. I guess I was a little confused on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles From: Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>> To:
>>>>
>>>>> Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>, Bryan Bartik <
>>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>, Cisco certification <
>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>, Narbik
>>>>>> Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com,
>>>>>> Persio
>>>>>> Pucci <persio_at_gmail.com> Date: 07/23/2009 09:24
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: One Misconception about lab
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From what I am aware of, no arp frame-relay should be removed from the
>>>>>> ios,
>>>>>> as frame-relay has no concept of arp at all. Please correct me if I am
>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also make sure if you decide to change encapsulations on an interface
>>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> copy the current config on that interface or you will be retyping
>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:01 AM, <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com>
>>>>>> wrote: Guys, I'm a little confused on this. For every single lab
>>>>>>
>>>>> out
>>>>>
>>>>>> there regardless of the provider, you learn to use "no frame inv" to
>>>>>> prevent the interface or DLCI from answering any requests that it
>>>>>> receives. I understand how this works and I understand why this
>>>>>>
>>>>> command
>>>>
>>>>> alone can meet any requirements for "not using any dynamic
>>>>>>
>>>>> mappings".
>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>>> documentation on CCO is vague and Internet opinions are varied on
>>>>>>
>>>>> "no
>>>>
>>>>> arp
>>>>>> frame-". I was under the impression that this command prevented the
>>>>>> router from initiating requests. I always use both as a sanity check
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> though I'm completely aware the second is not technically necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's
>>>>>
>>>>>> just cleaner to me. Am I totally mistaken? Is "no arp frame-" a
>>>>>>
>>>>> legacy
>>>>
>>>>> or
>>>>>> depreciated command? Or do I understand it correctly? Please don't
>>>>>>
>>>>> tell
>>>>>
>>>>>> me I'm missing a fundamental here.... Charles From:
>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>> Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com> To: Narbik Kocharians <
>>>>>> narbikk_at_gmail.com> Cc: Darby Weaver <
>>>>>>
>>>>> ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> ,
>>>>>> Bryan Bartik <bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>, Charles.Henson_at_regions.com,
>>>>>> Persio Pucci <persio_at_gmail.com>, Cisco certification <
>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> Date: 07/23/2009 08:39 Subject:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Re:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One Misconception about lab LOL that will fix it. does nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>> arp
>>>>>
>>>>>> frame On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
>>>>>> narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote: > One thing you are missing is the "no arp
>>>>>> frame" that you have in your > configuration. > > On Wed, Jul 22,
>>>>>>
>>>>> 2009
>>>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 8:51 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Kewl
>>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>> Like
>>>>>> I said as long as you are comfortable and you know why you > are >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> doing it. Sounds like you did and you got the digits to prove it. >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Bryan Bartik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com> > > wrote: > > > > > For a reason that
>>>>>> shall
>>>>>> remain
>>>>>> undisclosed, I needed to reboot one of > my > > > routers with
>>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>
>>>>> 20
>>>>>
>>>>>> minutes left. Was I nervous? Of course not... ;-)
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
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