Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan

Why are you guys bragging about the Pakistani economy on a 'global' forum
related to CCIE Studies? How does it help?

You think Cisco or someone here will announce a 'bail-out' package for PK ?
:)

Regards

Farrukh (from Pakistan!)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Asif Gul Khan <nockhi_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Things r quite difficult here in Pakistan, there is not much recognition
> for
> prof. certs back here.... Its all about experience over here. Ive been
> working at NOC of a Technologically rich ISP for last 3 yrz, n during all
> this time ive invested everything (money,time n all) only on Prof certs,
> ive
> earned a CCNA,CCNP,CCIP n CCIE Written ( n some Juniper certs) n still i m
> sitting at the same position n salary (approx) as i was 3 yrz back....no
> one
> leaves the job n therefore noone gets promoted... nowadays i m preparing
> for
> the lab n still investing day n nite to the hardwork.... and with all the
> lost hopes that have been given to me in this mail, wud i stay back here
> once im done with my lab?? Its really hard to c management n pmo guys
> getting 50 to 100 % increment while WE getting 15 to 25 % increment with
> the
> words : Ur lucky to even get 25% looking at the economy ....
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:22 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow!
> >
> > Back in 2006 I travelled to Pakistan just because IBM had no one
> > locally to show to one of its important customers. As I was told,
> > there were only several local CCIE's, all of them working for Cisco,
> > none for the partners, and returning from abroad because they felt
> > they can contribute. It is still cool that so many local engineers
> > managed to get to the CCIE level, but what happened since then?
> > Please unicast me if you want to.
> >
> > Mihai
> > CCIE #16616
> >
> > On Thursday, August 27, 2009, CC IE <cciestriker_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > hmmm
> > > well other problem that i have experienced that there is no project
> > coming
> > > due to economic meltdown here in Pakistan due to which vendors over
> here
> > are
> > > reluctant to add more CCIEs to there lineup.
> > >
> > > 76 to be precise, i feel is alot of ccie for a country like Pakistan
> but
> > i
> > > think 60-70% are working abroad not in Pakistan.
> > >
> > > lets see what happens to me
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Atif
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:42 PM, <itguy.pro@http://gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Khurram, are you from pakistan?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:36:53
> > >> To: Khurram Noor<engr.khurramnoor_at_googlemail.com>
> > >> Cc: Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; Divin Mathew John<
> > >> divinjohn_at_gmail.com>; Abdul Waheed Ghaffar<a_w_ghaffar_at_hotmail.com>;
> <
> > >> http://asim.mz@http://gmail.com>; <riz.iqbal82@gmail.com>; <
> > martin_at_kiefer.dk>
> > >> Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sorry I got my country mixed up.
> > >>
> > >> But still only 73 in one whole country is kind of sparse.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Khurram Noor <
> > >> engr.khurramnoor_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > The count of 73 CCIE is for Pakistan, not for India. India has 666
> > CCIEs
> > >> in
> > >> > a population of 1.07 billion. i like your concept and i believe a
> few
> > >> more
> > >> > including me would like to work with you if you start this in
> > Pakistan.
> > >> >
> > >> > On 8/27/09, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Ok
> > >> >>
> > >> >> By request...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Since I've had the good fortune to speak to the two people who know
> > >> >> whether
> > >> >> anyone can cheat on the CCIE, what is considered cheating and
> > conversely
> > >> >> what is not (hint: integrity and identification is the key), and
> > finally
> > >> >> how
> > >> >> it all kinda adds up in the longs run...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If you only got 73 CCIE's in one country the size of India... and
> > can't
> > >> >> find
> > >> >> suitable employment as a CCIE, not to be mean... but I have to
> ask...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 1. What does your resume look like?
> > >> >> 2. What does your experience look like.
> > >> >> 3. Cisco is probably not worried about 73 CCIE's taking the CCIE
> and
> > 3
> > >> >> score
> > >> >> and a little more devalueing the industry... Nope.
> > >> >> 4. Do you get the interview at all?
> > >> >> 5. Do you know Cisco has TAC in India and I'm sure they are hiring
> > >> >> well-qualified job applicants?
> > >> >> 6. Consulting has got to pay... I know sub-CCIE's in the USA doing
> > >> remote
> > >> >> work in India - a few actually... and if they are employed and
> > earning
> > >> USA
> > >> >> Dollars.... at a rate that is attractive to partners (say $100-200+
> > per
> > >> >> hour) then I have a hard time believing that 73 CCIE's have
> saturated
> > a
> > >> >> market of millions...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 7. If you guys are truly having this much trouble - lemme know...
> > maybe
> > >> I
> > >> >> can start a company in India with these CCIE's and service clients
> > >> >> anywhere
> > >> >> else in the USA... Promise you - I can market you and pay you
> > prevailing
> > >> >> wage or better for part-time work or full-time project work...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> By the way - this has all the makings of a genuine offer... for
> > CCIE's
> > >> >> mostly anywhere... FYI - I was able to sell my MCSE for $125 per
> > hour
> > >> on
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> factor of 3... per hour. I'm sure I can manuever a CCIE a few ways
> > to
> > >> >> Sunday and I love the "Sun Does Not Set On My CCIE's Concept". In
> > >> short,
> > >> >> I
> > >> >> should be able to get you paid and keep you paid... even if we
> gotta
> > go
> >
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