Re: Strange status of EtherChannel!

You bring up a very important point.

Apparently there may be a wide variation in the level of difficulty or shall
we say obscurity in how OEQ's are presented. While at Cisco Live, people
who attended a Techtutorial for the CCIE, were shown about 30-40 OEQ's and I
think the goal was to dimiss the "impossibility or even obscurity" issues
that might be preceived by soon to be CCIE Candidates.

I was there, another CCIE Canidadate with some 7 lab attempts was there, a
CCIE Voice was there and everyone else with had not been to the lab yet or
maybe 1 attempt. Of the 30-40 OEQ's that were presented most seemed
"accessible" and I think maybe 3 or 4 total were either not understood
properly or not able to be answered/attempted by the people that were in
attendance.

People around the globe are highly frustrated. And are asking a lot of
questions that might be considered preversely entertaining to the writer of
the questions but furiously disappointing to the person who faced 2 of these
tigers in one cage...

The result is the questions are leaking.

It's one thing to ask about fundamental concepts and routing protocol output
and behaviors or even trivia that most of us should probably know...

However, some of the questions that are appearing in various places lately
are amazingly scarce to find even a hint of an answer for?

Not that people whould be leaking their OEQ's nor am I suggesting they
are...

However, a lot of oddball questions are floating and when researched there
is sometimes only a couple of places to find an answer to these desperate
queries...

And they are on places like Cisco Wiki's, blogs, and some are even found
deeply buried in Cisco Press refence books that may no longer be published.

Sorry, but I read and I research what I read and lately I've found no less
that three oddballs in some of the places mentioned above.

So I guess a well-prepared or minimimally qualified CCIE Candidate is one
thing and a CCIE who get the luck of the draw is quite another.

It sure is disappointing to see score reports that read a lot of 100% in the
various tecnologies and then see the guys OEQ to be 0%.

This is terrible.

Like Mark points out, a lot of us pay our own way and it costs us directly.

Failing when you can't get some technology working - well that's just what
it is.

Failing when you can get everything working or mostly everything working,
studied for how long, and then get some oddball trivia that only a few
people seem to have seen or "may" have been references in a Cisco Press book
5-10 years ago that is no longer for sale or in print...

That's just cruel.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Mark Matters <markccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never seen or noticed that status before doing labs or even at
> work. Not even on the doc cd
> I find the open ended questions very discouraging. If you happen to get 2
> that you do not know or even worse you misunderstand what they want from
> you, you lose $1400 + expenses. I pay for everything out of my pocket. I
> study very hard. I stay up until my eyes burn and my head throbs. I hear
> of
> all the people who fail because of these questions and think do I want to
> risk $1400+ on 4 questions. $1400 for some company sending employees for a
> test can absorb this expense. I can not. At least multiple choice would
> give you a fighting chance to guess correctly or start the old brain
> thinking. What's to say the live person reading your questions agree's with
> how you presented it. These are scored in different countries where you
> take
> the test.
>
> What will people say" well you were not ready" and the folks who pass will
> say "this should not be an issue for a well prepared engineer". BS I tell
> you!!!!!! You just got lucky and got easy questions questions and deep down
> you know it. There are MANY well prepared engineers who got screwed over.
> Cisco has done a GREAT disservice to the average joe.
>
> So now I need to spend more money for training, go to more bootcamps and
> for
> what they do not teach this anyway. The quizzers are not relevant. Reread
> my
> books and then forget my obscure hands on and vise versa.
>
> The 4 questions are not fair and should be removed.
>
> This makes me very sad and fills me with discouragement. You do not
> understand what I have sacrificed, I have scarified what I can never ever
> get back, ever and I am not talking about time. What my family has
> sacrificed. Oh no, what have I done. I am really very depressed now.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:28 AM, But Nicky <lyredhair_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > SW2(config)#do sh eth summ
> > Flags: D - down P - in port-channel
> > I - stand-alone s - suspended
> > H - Hot-standby (LACP only)
> > R - Layer3 S - Layer2
> > U - in use f - failed to allocate aggregato
> > U - unsuitable for bundling
> > W - waiting to be aggregated
> > D - default port
> > Number of channel-groups in use: 1
> > Number of aggregators: 1
> > Group Port-channel Protocol Ports
> >
> >
> ------+-------------+-----------+-----------------------------------------------
> >
> > 12 Po12(SU) - Fa0/19(P) Fa0/20(P) Fa0/21(P)
> Fa0/22(P)
> > Fa0/23() Fa0/24(P) Fa0/25P)
> > Fa0/26(P)
> >
> >
> > Each interface are shown as (P), except F0/23 (),What is the status of
> > F0/23? I have not saw it before, please help.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > But Nguyen.
> >
> > P/S: This is question for OEQ, which I collected from internet, do not
> > require posting the configuration.
> >
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